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garden_gal



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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Location: St Austell

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: grit and vacinations Reply with quote

Hi Guys, can you help me please. In all the stuff I've been reading, there is mention of chickens being vacinated - the breeder we bought our girls from never mentioned this but should they have been done (they're about 18 weeks old) or do we need to call the vet? The other thing is I keep reading conflicting articles about grit, namely oyster shell - should my chickens have this - and if so when do I give it and how much? Thanks for your help.
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crazypianolady



Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Location: Nottinghamshire

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about the vaccinations, I bought hybrids already done but someone will be along who does know!

Chickens need two sorts of grit - one for digestion (the type they'll find scratching in the ground) and one for shell formation (that's where the oyster shell comes in). Mixed grit from poultry feed suppliers has both types in it. Most layers' pellets also have an oyster shell equivalent included.

If you put some mixed grit in a container for them, they'll help themselves as they need it.

Happy hen keeping!

Smile
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nigel
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Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Skåne, Sweden

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can buy vaccines, companies like Interhatch in Chesterfield do them, but they come in batches of 1,000 [if memory serves] which makes them rather impractical for hobbyists. Some vets may do them too but I know when I lived in the UK my local vet didn't.

None of my birds have ever been vaccinated and I haven't had any problems. Keep them in good conditions and keep on top of hygiene and the hens will do just fine.
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Kitsune



Joined: 13 Mar 2008
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Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree re- vaccinations I think they are mainly for places that have a large number of birds crammed into a small space.
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mojo



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here in france we have to have vaccinations to show or move our birds........but locals dont bother.............put mixed grit out and they will eat what they need
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Debbie



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Location: Moncoutant

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mojo,
sorry to hijack the post, but can you give me any clues how to tell whether my barnvelders are male or female? They are 13 weeks old and both look exactly the same. If they are both poules, how would I go about getting a cockerel as I would like a few more chicks.
Debbie
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Kitsune



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Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know you can PM for things so off topic Wink

(I'm not complaining as I'm well known for going off topic - just thought it would be easier for you)
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Debbie



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Location: Moncoutant

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Just having a blonde moment!
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mojo



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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

debbie see PM
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tuzo2k



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Posts: 209
Location: charente sw france

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mojo - didn't know you had to have vaccinations before you can take a bird to a show - what vaccinations are required and do the ushers at the shows look at the paper-proof of this?
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mojo



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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

our aviculture club states on all entry forms ......vaccination current..........and all birds being shown must list vaccination number on entry form and no birds can be offered for sale without vacination................check with your local aviculture club as they all seem to run by their own rules and some dont seem to worry much at all
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tuzo2k



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Posts: 209
Location: charente sw france

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are birds vaccinated against? Any idea?
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mojo



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i asked the club vet and he informs "hall de parrisitys,maldadeys trans fury et aussi hand influew havien"..........well i think thats what he said basically a general shot to cover yourl bird health and av vaccinne..........but suggest you check with local club to be sure .......my french is not clever at poultry health terms and they aint in the dictionary
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tuzo2k



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
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Location: charente sw france

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mojo - I guess that's Infectious Bronchitis - as its known in the UK, and any form of parasitic transference. I will have to speak to my vet for info on vaccination but I suspect even for him to buy the vaccine it will come in extremely large doses - not that I am going to show any birds in the near future - I need more info on the breeds standards which will undoubtedly be in French and UK equivalents not relevant methinks.
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