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Magpie



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: Norfolk

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Avian Flu isolation housing examples Reply with quote

I thought it may be of help to some people to see my housing which is all compliant with the requirement to isolate poultry from wild birds and to feed undercover. They all have solid roofs of either Onduline or Corolux and the wire netting sides are 13mm Sentinal aviary netting. All doors, windows, vents etc are netted.

This is an integral house and run 8' x 3'6"


This one is a seperate house with a 6' x 3'6" run


This is my 6'x10' shed with it's 20' x 6' run. It is divided into three pens and easily houses the 13 birds currently in it.


Hope that helps.

Tim
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Henwife



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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Location: Monmouthshire

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. It's always useful to see what needs to be done, though I'm afraid with me it would probably be a major cull alas.
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Magpie



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Location: Norfolk

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realise if you have a lot of birds it wouldn't be possible to do this for everything - but the all in one coop took me 1 day to build and I reckon cost under £100. It would be okay for up to 5 LF or 6-7 bantams for a short while.

Forgot to say that the clear plastic sheets have horticultural shade netting under them - partly so the birds don't get too hot in the summer and partly so the white feathers don't go cream and the buff/gold/blue feathers dont fade Shocked .

Tim
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milkmaid



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine are in th polytunnel ,it's cold up here in the winter and there is a mesh door so on mild days i can ventilate properly ,i've got disinfectant for the gate and for entering the coops ,in a covered plastic box you can be fined if the disinfect is watered down more than it should be for the preposes required ,hence it will be in a covered box in case it rains with a brush to ensure it's disinfected properly ,one thing we were told as well disinfect takes 30 seconds to work properly ,although it is easier if you don't have to step into the run Wink ,both deb and i went to a 3 hour lecture on how to cope what to do Rolling Eyes ,magpie it looks as if your set up is ideal Cool
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Henwife



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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Location: Monmouthshire

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a couple more 6x4 sheds to be erected now the creosote is dry(ish). So long as I put a droppings board beneath the perching bars, I can put food and water inside which would give me breathing space to sort out runs. I can confine a dozen LF in these, or 2 doz if just used for night shelter with a run.
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Sparklepeeps



Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magpie, what is the name of the stuff you use for the roof? I want some of that in see through colour for the top of mine. How much does it cost?

Milkmaid - am I right in thinking that your polytunnel is covered in plastic? Is it see through? Is it fox proof?
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Magpie



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: Norfolk

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparklepeeps wrote:
Magpie, what is the name of the stuff you use for the roof? I want some of that in see through colour for the top of mine. How much does it cost?


The black stuff is Onduline - about £8 a sheet (2mx1m) plus you need special nails with plastic heads - I think they were about £23 for 200. The clear is Corolux profile 3 PVC sheets (2.4mx0.75m) - don't know price yet as I'm waiting for the invoice but it is likely to be between £10 and £15 a sheet Confused . You need special fixings for the corolux as well; spacer, screw collar, cap and the screw but I don't think they are too much.

I get all of the materials from Clarkes of Walsham as they are local to me ( I even have a trade account now Shocked ) but they do deliver to most of England (sorry don't think they'll go as far as Lewis Rolling Eyes) and are much cheaper than the B&Q and Jewson type places in my experience. www.clarkesofwalsham.co.uk 01359 259259

Tim
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Itsybitsy



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 1312
Location: Leicestershire

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparklepeeps wrote:

Milkmaid - am I right in thinking that your polytunnel is covered in plastic? Is it see through? Is it fox proof?


A plastic poly tunnel won't be foxproof, if you could see the damage to a wooden house that a fox can inflict with it's teeth and scratching, then you'll realise that. A friend of mine had her wooden pen broken into by a fox, it had torn great chunks out of the wood Evil or Very Mad

Itsybitsy
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debcat
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Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Isle of Lewis

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's no foxes up here though Rolling Eyes
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milkmaid



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine has mesh inside it ,because the last time i had birds in it 2 years ago they slashed the sides when they were digging around and a fence around the outside to stop the wind and goats horns ,the problem with polys are they get hot ,unless they are the type with mesh sides
no we are lucky no foxes here Wink
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Spana



Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 2029
Location: North Cornwall

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can cope with all the chicken houses, we have a plan if its needed. My biggest problem is what to do with the ducks. They are completely free range and swim on open water, with lots of wild ducks and geese flying in and out all the time. I have kept numbers low just incase and a lot will depend on how much time we are given to get them in, but the end result will be a cull for them all. Any which cant be caught will have to be shot on the water. Nightmare, just pray it doesn't come to that Sad
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Welsh Duck



Joined: 18 Jul 2007
Posts: 1594
Location: Herefordshire/Welsh Border

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magpie- Wow I like your pens. Shocked very impresive. My pens should be OK. The chicken sheds are big enough for them to stay inside. I have 40 ducks and they would move into our piggery-(we have no pigs) There are four concrete pens with sloping floors so perfect for ducks for a short while. And its fox proof
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Timbo



Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 169
Location: Cranfield, Beds.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, a good job there Tim.

Can anyone tell me something about the disinfectant? Does it have to be a certain make - you see I have two large tins of Jeyes Fluid which I see kills bird flu but don't know if that would be 'approved' or not in foot baths and at what dilution rate. Thanks,

Tim
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Magpie



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: Norfolk

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timbo wrote:
Yes, a good job there Tim.

Can anyone tell me something about the disinfectant? Does it have to be a certain make - you see I have two large tins of Jeyes Fluid which I see kills bird flu but don't know if that would be 'approved' or not in foot baths and at what dilution rate. Thanks,

Tim


Thanks Very Happy .

Best disinfectant is Virkon S - kills just about everything. I use it for foot dip, house cleaning and feeder/drinker cleaning every so often. A thirty second soak is enough to sort out AI virus as long as you have scrubbed off any mud/c**p first.

Easiest way is to buy the 50g sachets at about £2.50 each, they make up 5 liters to spray or soak stuff with. If you don't need so much at once you can get tablets now which make up half a litre each or if you need more, take out a mortgage and buy a bucketful Twisted Evil . Check out www.antecint.co.uk/main/aviemergency.htm for stockists.

Tim
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Timbo



Joined: 03 Mar 2006
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Location: Cranfield, Beds.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tim.

Only reason I wonder about Jeyes is I have two large tins of the stuff (they were given to me).

It also costs an arm and a leg!

I will look into the Virkon S and the web link anyway. Thanks.

Tim
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