The Poultry Keeper

richard · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 258 Location: somerset

Thanks guys, I'll go and put their food back in the run now Very Happy

Phil@Birchams · Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Beccles

Another nail in the coffin of British farmers Sad

What I cannot fully understand is where it came from. Assuming the Turkeys are intensive, and it is not the migratory season??? We don't even get sparrows in with our free range hens, so no chance of a duck in with intensive turkeys.

Waiting to see if it hits our egg sales - looks likely we will be culling birds before the week is out.

Phil

CP · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject:

Some possibilities that haven't been mentioned. Laughing

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1) an employee brought it in from their trip abroad.
2) industrial sabotage! Surprised

3) terrorist action! Shocked

4) Mr.Blair's way of taking the heat off his current situation. Rolling Eyes

5) global warming. (well everything's being blamed on that just lately!)

As it's not really migrating time at the moment, if it came in naturally then it's already here in Britain & has been since the Autumn! (But there's always exceptions to rules. Rolling Eyes

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milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7311 Location: isle of lewis

ah you've been doing what i have today as well Wink

sasha.p · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 485 Location: gwent

i thought i would pop in to see what everyone is saying though i have avoided wanting to hear anything about it as i am also just starting to breed my birds and have got everything ready .well i cant imagine how they have managed to catch it if they are as good with their bio security as Bernard Matthews company has said on the news,where do they get their birds from are they imported or something?as everyone has said there's no migration yet so the only other thing is it was already here Sad

Lisa · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject:

Had Radio 4 on this morning while driving - someone said it was possible for small birds to get through some ventilation systems into intensive housed poultry Shocked

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7311 Location: isle of lewis

there are loads of rumours going around at the moment,i'm just going to think about my birds and how to keep them safe ,wait to see how it happened when it's comfirmed

stephen · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject:

The latest one on the news is that a passing pigeon did it's business as a worker was walking into the premises, and it may have landed on his boot and been walked into the houses.

Henwife · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3413 Location: Monmouthshire

There is a far more probably source of infection which Bernard Matthews is keeping VERY quiet about. He has turkey farms in Hungary - where H5N1 was confirmed last week (tho' as far as I know, not at his turkey farms), which could be just co-incidence.....

CP · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject:

Aha! That sound a very probable cause! Wink

Fenn · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 2292 Location: Shrewsbury

That sounds far more likely, doesn't it Confused

I hadn't even thought about the food - mine have bowls all over the garden Embarassed

I'd better bring everything inside tomorrow...

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7311 Location: isle of lewis

thought this link might help some people http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/notifiable/disease/ai/index.htm
it's got loads of stuff to wade though Confused

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unfortunatly my computer doesn't open pdf
it hates stuff like that Rolling Eyes

and good luck to everyone near that area and everywhere else

Phil@Birchams · Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Beccles

The sparrow theory is possible, but what birds are carriers - geese & swans are the ones being mentioned. Sparrows do get into intensive sheds, but if they carry it, getting it off a migratory bird is a pretty thin link. Seems not enough is known.

The person bringing it in on clothing seems more likely, or on a vehicle, but DEFRA seem to be grasping at straws, not facts, but then what are the facts?

I notice today there is a license to move eggs, was not even aware egg movements were restricted Shocked

But the license is only to a packing station, no mention of retailing eggs. Will wait to hear from DEFRA today Rolling Eyes

Meanwhile I guess we keep on selling them, in the absence of instructions to the contrary Confused

Fenn · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 2292 Location: Shrewsbury

I live within a mile of a waterfowl sanctuary - I suppose I ought to start putting tarp over the runs today Confused

I hadn't even thought of eggs, Phil Shocked

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7311 Location: isle of lewis

right seeing as my computer will not open pdf could anyone tell me ,does the quarentine period of 28 days still apply as it does with other conagus sp Embarassed

illness
nobody on or off apart from defra ect ,and if it does why where the workers not given flu jabs at the plant ,and why where they told to turn up for work as usual on monday Shocked

,i hope i didn't hear that right ,