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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject: Forage greens for chickens? |
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I have some large pots and I want to grow some "chicken greens" in them to put in the chicken run. The run has mainly straw on the ground now and some bark chips. The grass disappeared a long time ago So additional greens for the chooks, somehow, are a must for me.
I've tried either hanging up brocolli, or tying bunches of weeds for them and hanging in the run, but once they're no longer fresh, they ignore them. Plus brocolli gets expensive! They ignore old cabbage plants from the veggie beds Greens on the floor of the run get ignored (my sisters chooks on the other hand demolish the kitchen scraps when they get them). The best way to feed my lot greens is to blitz them in the food processor as a kinda "green mash", but I'd like to get away from that if I could.
I've got up to 10 pots I can use, so I'm thinking they can go in the run one at a time for and then they can come out to recover and regrow in a chicken free zone. I know some plants will recover from being eaten (I had some parsely in a pot last year that got eaten down to ground level when the chooks were out, but regrew once moved and given time....
I'd like to grow a variety so they get a nice variety of minerals and benefits.
The questions is: "What to grow"?
The inspiration comes from this link and their "easy forage planting mix" (but its not a UK site):
http://www.homestead.com/shilala/supplements.html
This is what they say about it:
| Quote: | The Ultimate Natural Forage Mixture for your birds. We have formulated this mixture to provide our growing birds with the greens and protein they need during development, as well as a high protein, completely natural staple when they reach maturity. In it's different stages, it provides a varying level of protein that suits your spring hatched bird's needs. In it's beginning "Freshly Grazed" state, it offers a protein level of 27 to 34%. In it's "Lush Growth" stage, it provides a protein level of 20 to 27%. In it's "Flowering and Seeding" stage, it provides a protein level of 8 to 13%. If you believe in a "natural" approach when it comes to providing nutrition for your flock, this mixture is an excellent addition to your program.
Grow some this spring, your birds will love you for it!!!
Formulation:
Early Corn 23.25%
Buckwheat 9.9%
Black Oil Sunflower 7.35%
Early Grain Sorghum 5.9%
Japanese Millet 2.95%
Climax Timothy 7.45%
Creeping Red Fescue 7.35%
Mammoth Red Clover 6.45%
Alsike Clover 5.95%
Hardy Brand Alfalfa 5.95%
Aubisque Tetraploid Perennial Rye 4.9%
Potomac Orchardgrass 3.8%
Medium Red Clover 2.95%
Birdsfoot Trefoil 2.45%
Ladino Clover 1.95%
Planting:
This seed mixture is formulated to produce nation-wide. Planting time in Zone 5 is May 1 to June 1. Planting times in other zones vary, you'll need to make an adjustment for your specific zone. Germination is 10-21 days. Establishment comes in 5-10 weeks. Seed over tilled, smoothed soil for best results, but will also work in a broadcasting situation. Seeding rate is 1 ounce to 100 square feet. As with all crops, soil should be tested and adjusted for nutrient levels and ph. |
I know I posted about this once upon a time on PP when it was the wrong time of year to grow it, but sadly its one of the threads that "disappeared"....
I also thought any of the following would be good for them too:
Lettuce
Parsley
Dandelion
Clivers
Calendula
Hardy geraniums
Wheat
Oats
Barley
Spinach
Chard
Any thoughts?
Any extras to add to the list?
Anything I should leave off the list?
And can any one recommend where to get seeds for the more unusual of these in the UK?
Thanks in advance
Lis |
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summayah
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 4289 Location: luton
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| when I first had my chickens I was at my daughters with them, and they demolished her pot of coriander and radishes in no time at all. These that have now are like yours, won't touch the greens that I give them ~ I guess part of the enjoyment is picking them yourself if you're a chicken. My chickens last year liked all bedding plants especially those with white flowers. But none of them have ever liked dandelions ~ wish they did, but they just ignore them. None of them seem to be eatingmy hardy geraniums either and I have a whole bed of them all different types and colours, but they're all starting to flower with no nicks out of the leaves. What about seeing if you could get the mix sent over ~ was it highly priced or maybe deb could buy it for you and send it over. |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks summayah - I hadn't thought of corriander and radishes to add to the list.
And your comment about white flowers reminded me of chamomile and feverfew too - both useful herbs.
Mine definitely liked hardy geraniums - I have a pink one that had somewhat overrun the garden, but not any more! Success!!
And they loved dandelion leaves I brought back from the allotment.
So those both get the thumbs up from my fussy chookies  |
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mojo
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 10191 Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: mojo here |
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| chicorie sauvage or wild chicory a wonderfull cut and come again plant for chooks plant water and thats it do try it we use it planted in lines as well once established no work........mojo |
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nigel Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 2339 Location: Skåne, Sweden
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Lisa
Have you had a look at Emorsgate wild seedsthey do quite a range. I've got some I'm going to use in the hedgerow I've just cleared of brambles.
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for some more ideas
Mojo - I'll investigate the chicory.
Nigel - I'll check out that seed company you recommended.
Doh - just realised: perhaps I should add "chick weed" to the list too  |
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Deb_Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 3661
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Lisa, let me know if I need to send anything in the post to you.  |
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CP Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 15000 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Mine adore comfrey. I have to fence it off for a while to recover or they will demolish it!
This year they have eaten all the flower buds off the winter pansies, stripped the wallflowers to just stalks & recently they've been eating viburnum & azalea flowers!
Mine will eat cabbage greens & cauliflower leaves, but are not keen on broccoli.
I've never thought of growing things especially for the chickens though. Maybe I should find a bit of space & try it. I'm sure it would be cheaper than buying stuff from the supermarket! |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Ah, comfrey - we can do that. Grows like a weed! Its added to the list - thanks chicken_palace
And you've given me another idea - edible flowers! I'm sure I've got a list in a book on growing salads... Naturtiums spring to mind too... might as well have the pots looking pretty if I can
Deb - thanks for the offer to help. I'll see what I can find over here first, and if i get stuck I'll get in touch  |
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CP Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 15000 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Trouble is Lisa, they won't look pretty for long!
My Nasturtiums last year were grown in baskets, too high for the chooks, so maybe I'll try them lower down & see if they like them! |
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