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fenwoman
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Location: Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire.
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| thewinkingtiger wrote: | Woo!!
That told me!!! LOL 
Yes I did think you meant the spot on stuff - and I did wonder how you managed it to 'spray' it on the legs! Just haven't come across the frontline spray before.
And I was asking the vet about using 'spot on' for chickens and that's the one that he pooh poohed. (Saying that - that particular vet was the one that has now gone after recommending I inject my chooks with sheep dip to cure the scaley. (Needless to say I didn't!!!)
Off to go write 100 hundred lines "must read more slowly and not make assumptions" |
Ahh take no notice of me, I should have been a school ma'am lol.
Glad the daft vet has gone now though.
I dunno why we have to have frontline prescribed over here. In Europe you can buy it from pet shops. I think it is because vets want to keep control of the high prices over here grrrr. |
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thewinkingtiger
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Location: East Yorkshire, UK
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| Quote: | | In Europe you can buy it from pet shops. I think it is because vets want to keep control of the high prices over here grrrr. |
I totally agree with you - it is outrageous the prices. I avoid them like the plague whereever possible, and buy over the counter stuff from chemists where I can.
The whole chemist was in stitches when I was buying daktarin gel for the chooks!!! 
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debcat
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Location: Isle of Lewis
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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our vet is strange
you can buy frontline for cats and dogs and antibiotics for sheep over the counter
Makes life loads easier
He's really good as well if you describe livestocks symptoms over the phone, he will often prescribe without coming out
I know he is in the minority, when I lived in the city the vet had to see my cats - all of them - every 6 months just to get wormers and frontline |
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thewinkingtiger
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Location: East Yorkshire, UK
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Sounds more 'good' than 'strange' Debs.
I believe there is a better vet in my area for chooks so will have to check that out. I've suffered from 'loyalty' due to how they have cared for my dogs and cats previously. But need to rethink things for my girls (and boys)! |
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debcat
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Location: Isle of Lewis
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I think Hector's a one off
ecentric but really good with animals
not keen on horses though  |
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thewinkingtiger
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Location: East Yorkshire, UK
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 hmm guess you can't win them all. |
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fenwoman
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Location: Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| debcat wrote: | our vet is strange
you can buy frontline for cats and dogs and antibiotics for sheep over the counter
Makes life loads easier
He's really good as well if you describe livestocks symptoms over the phone, he will often prescribe without coming out
I know he is in the minority, when I lived in the city the vet had to see my cats - all of them - every 6 months just to get wormers and frontline |
While this sounds very convenient I would not touch this vet with a bargepole. WHat he is doing is highly illegal. He is not allowed to prescribe without seeing an animals. There are good reasons for this law. What if he misdiagnoses and manages to kill your animal? Simply because you missed something out or didn't see something he would have seen immediately.
I have a brilliant vet who will try to save me money whenever he can. Ran after my car last week to tell me about cheaper antibiotics for my dog because I said I could not afford the ones he had prescribed and I would simply use what I had at home. As long as he knows I will respect him and take anything ill to see him for a proper diagnosis, he is happy to give repeat prescriptions without always seeing the animal. I don't think I would have any confidence with one who wasn't concerned enough to want to see the animal initially, to ensure he was getting it right and who simply gave out prescription medications willy nilly. Although it does annoy me that things like frontline are on prescription only. |
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debcat
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There is only one vet who covers a very large rural area, with an even larger animal population
as most of us here are crofters we know our animals really well
we also know what treatment they require. Anything that we are not sure of then the vet comes out
He could be 70 miles away on a call out when you phone
It is a waste of time calling the vet out when what you need is a dose of calcium for twin lamb disease, or antibiotics a ewe that has needed help with lambing
It is far quicker if you know what the problem is to simply pick up the medication that you know will help your animal rather than watch it suffering further and in some cases loose the animal.
I realise that in a more urban area things are far different,
I was merely trying to point out that there are other ways for vets to work that may be of more benefit to the animals they claim to care for.
If I need help I can get it when I need it not hours later. |
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milkmaid
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: isle of lewis
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he is a fantastic vet ,i needed him to come out to see a goat that was in trouble was there within minutes ,but if i know what is wrong he will sort it so that help is on hand be it, himself or the meds i need ,when my goat died he sat and cried with me, a real james herriot ,
we don't have x ray machines or anything like that here,so he has to know what he's doing ,he works all the hours sends ,i would trust him with anything ,
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thewinkingtiger
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Location: East Yorkshire, UK
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I would love to have a vet like Suz and Deb have got.
The actual 'owner' of the practise will act more like you describe for customers with small holdings or regular patients etc,. As he accepts he doesn't know everthing and often the owner does know best.
Unfortunately for me - I seem to have only got the locums lately so they are a bit 'jobs worth' and stick to the rules as if their lives depended on it!!! LOL |
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summayah
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Location: luton
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| when I had to take one of my girls in to the vets with coughing etc., she gave me the usual baytril for her .2ml x 3 daily. But did say if any of the other girls got similar symptoms just to phone in and they would dispense some more for me. I rather liked that idea ~ as it's the consultation fee that really cripples isn't it? Fortunately I didn't need her help but was grateful for the offer. |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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| fenwoman wrote: | | ... No dipping, rubbing etc daily... |
Other suggested treatments do not require doing daily. Quote from http://kingbirdfarm.com/Layerhealthcompendium.pdf (remedies for the organic laying flock):
| Quote: | Scaly Leg Mites
Other Names
Organism or Mechanism
Knemidocoptes mutans
• Dunk feet in surgical spirits once a week three times.
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| fenwoman wrote: | | ... and stressing them out... |
IMHO that is another unsubstantiated and unfair assumption ie that other owner's birds are stressed by being picked up and treated. I appreciate that may be your opinion, and even your experience with your birds. And I can certainly appreciate that in a commercial setting with hundreds of birds it simply may not be practical.
But with small numbers of birds, or birds kept as pets at home, it is fairly easy to get them used to being handled if you want, just as you would with any other animal (eg it is recommended at puppy classes that puppies are brought up to be handled easily, given tablets properly and effectively etc (using treats of course, not medicine!)).
It can be the same for chickens - it does not have to be a negative experience you state as the norm... |
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Loudmouth Schnook
Joined: 01 Nov 2005
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Location: Back, Isle of Lewis
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| Hector has been a very excellent vet - even with my horses. One of my Paddies had choke-like symptoms (he bolts his food) and out Hector came at 9pm on a Sunday night to have a look. Afterward, we had a long chat over coffee - and he never had the office charge us for the callout! Don't know of many mainland vets that will do that. |
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debcat
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it's his billing system that gets me
I've been waiting for the last bill since july  |
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Loudmouth Schnook
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I wouldn't both chasing him up for it, would you?  |
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