The Poultry Keeper

Knobby · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: Radio 2 1.30pm Today

Had quite a good piece on backyard chickens and bird flu....quite interesting.....apart from the stupid man from Animal Aid....apparnatly none of us is qualified enough or responsible enough to keep chickens Wink

You can probably "Listen again" Online !!!

Dixie Chicks · Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 281 Location: Cumbria

I caught that bit too, after being tipped off by hubby. But that's not why I'm posting ......... KNOBBY, I LURVE YOUR AVATAR Laughing

Knobby · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:

Why.......Thank you Baby !!!! Cool

Dixie Chicks · Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 281 Location: Cumbria

My pleasure Wink

debcat · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject:

found it on listen again, had to listen to the whole show though Confused

the bloke from animal aid was a total ****
the rest wasn't too bad

Nisi · Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 164 Location: Yorkshire

Yes I heard it. The animal aid man was talking absolute ****. He seemed to be more worried that we 'backyard farmers' wouldn't have any lawn left in our gardens ! Rolling Eyes

kittoch · Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 165 Location: glasgow

if it was up to some of these "animal aid" types, we would not be allowed to keep chooks or anything else anyway.thats the aim of a few of them, but kept quiet from all their supporters. Shocked

Knobby · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject:

George · Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 5661 Location: London

fenwoman · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject:

and some of us think lawns are a waste of space in any case. Even if I hadn't got chickens I wouldn't have a lawn. I hate those animal rights pompous asses whio imagine nobody knows anything about animals except them.
I'm not going to listen to it as my blood pressure has only just gone down from the car insurance hassle.

CP · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:16 am Post subject:

The Animal Aid guy was a total ass. Shocked

He shouldn't even have been interviewed. He had nothing constructive to say about AI & was only concerned about preaching vegetarianism to everyone! Evil or Very Mad

I have nothing against vegetarians at all, but all this guy kept saying was you shouldn't eat meat or eggs as they are contaminated!

Total waste of time! Twisted Evil

fenwoman · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject:

I get very short tempered with animal rights type people sometimes. Yes, yes, I know, that's not at all like me Laughing

While I applaude their strength of passion and compassion I think they go too far. WHat they don't seem to understand is that if we all became vegan overnight, farm animals would mostly disappear within one generation as nobody would keep herds of pet cattle or pigs. If killing animals became illegal and classed as murder as they want, then even in the case of dire sufferring we would not be allowed to give the coup de grace.
That bothers me just as it bothers me that humans have to suffer terribly even when terminally ill as euthanasia is illegal (that's another discussion).
While I will be totally vocal and outspoken against unwarranted cruelty even if it is because of ignorance I cannot put myself in the same league are some of the AR people although I fully supported hunt sabateurs, and fire bombing large fur shops and threatening those who commit dreadful acts on animals in the name of science, and laying down in front of lorries carrying live animals for slaughter in Europe.
I happen to believe that the food chain is natural and that keeping animals is good for people but this being the case, they MUST be kept in the best conditions possible. If a time ever comes when the keeping of pets is illegal and veganism is the law, I will euthanase myself. In fact given some of animal aid and PETA's beliefs, I have come to the conclusion that they don't actually LIKE sharing this planet with animals at all.

CP · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject:

I agree with most of what you're saying fenwoman, but I'm afraid I don't condone violence.

Education, whilst a slower option, must be the way to get your point across to have any lasting affects on the way animals are treated.

It's beyond belief that any animal is still abused in the 21st century considering everything we know already. I understand the frustration that we can do very little to change this as an individual, but fire bombing & threats of violence is not the way to go.

And no, I am not a vegetarian, vegan or bunny-hugging hippy - just a normal omnivorous human being! Wink

kittoch · Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 165 Location: glasgow

while also hating animal cruelty, i cannot condone a lot of what some of these animal rights people do...........mink released into a non-natural habitat, has spelled massive declines in coots/moorhens etc, and almost certain extinction of water voles, and the lack of knowledge of many of them is actually quite shocking concerning many animals atall!!..........i also dont think that a lot of some of the more extreme organisations aims are widely known really..........am sure some of there supporters would be horrified to hear, that , if they had there way, they would not have "tiddles" or "rex" to share their lives with!!! Shocked

phil and charlotte · Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 114 Location: South Somerset

I've always thought it very suspicious that the animal rights extremists fell completely silent during the Foot and Mouth cull. Recently Defra has proposed a major cull of badgers to try and control Bovine TB (why not cull the cattle to prevent its spread to badgers? Obviously, they infect each other). Once again the animal rights lobby has distinguished itself by its silence.