The Poultry Keeper The Independent Forum for Poultry Keepers    FAQ   Search     Register   Log in  Worming Goto page Previous  1, 2          The Poultry Keeper Forum Index -> Poultry Clinic Author Message Lisa Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3237 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Well this thread just goes to show you that with most thing with animals there are lots of different options and opinions... Personally I do use Flubenvet but I know there are many people who use natural worming products or approaches with their chooks and have satisfactory results. BTW, I do feed fresh garlic regularly to my dog as it also has many positive benefits (quotes from Herbs for Pets by Gregory L. Tilford & Mary Wulff-Tilford) Quote: Primary Medicinal Activities (of Garlic): antibacterial, stimulates the immune system, anticancer, nutritive, antioxidant, expectorant, lowers blood pressure, antitumour, antiviral, antifungal, tonic But I make sure I feed it in quantities that I believe are safe ie only one or two fresh cloves of garlic, 3 or 4 days per week for a GSD. And this amount has been given the OK to me by 2 different vets... Like with most things though, it does depend how much you use. After all, even water could kill us in excess but no-one says "don't drink water"!! More, in the case of garlic, is most definitely not best and I agree it can cause Heinz-body anemia if mis-used. This is more likely in cats than dogs, and garlic should never be fed to puppies (as they don't begin producing new red blood cells until after 6 to 8 weeks of age). The text goes into the subject in much more detail, but it summarises with: Quote: Small doses of garlic added to your companion animal's food three or four days per week, perhaps 1/8 teaspoon of garlic powder per pound of food fed, are probably going to be of great benefit to the overall health of your pet. Just don't overdo it. Like I said - lots of different opinions. Take your pick Back to top Lisa Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3237 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: 1 Chicken Smuggler wrote: I Believe as do many of my chicken friends,that you should use about 3 different types of wormers when worming.Rotate the use of the 3 wormers.Use one ,one time the next time use another type and a different one for the third worming,then start over with the first wormer. Remember only worm every 3-4 months That's interesting. Do you know why that is? AFAIK Flubenvet does cover everything it needs to, and as it is the only licensed chicken wormer in the UK it would be hard for us to rotate wormers Just wondering if you have different worms to contend with too? Obviously you have more than one wormer available... Back to top 1 Chicken Smuggler Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 178 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Lisa The reasoning behind using the method of rotating wormers is due to the fact that worms like any other organism can build up a tolerance to something once it has been exposed to a substance for a long enough time. Example if you use an insecticide all the time and by chance an insect or its offspring survive the chemical you are using, then when it breeds , their offspring also have a tolerance to that product.They grow and breed,then naturally their offspring have more of a tolerance and breed,eventually the product you are using either has no effect or only kills off the weak. Flubenvet is probably a great product,never heard of it before coming here.We over here use pig , goat or horse wormers here as well on chickens.Naturally you have to figure out the amount for chickens and like any wormer that you administer you need to refrain from using the eggs for 7 days to 1 month,depending on what you use. I used Diatoms , known here as DE ( in the food grade ) and thought it was doing what it is suppose to do,but had to go to chemicals to do the job. Hope I explained this well. Back to top Lisa Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3237 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the explanation Back to top 1 Chicken Smuggler Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 178 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: You are quite welcome. Back to top Motherbird Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Posts: 54 Location: Dorset Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Please could someone tell me about worming chickens. I get confused. I did have a sack of pellets that had worming powder in it, a while ago. I have 10 chickens and they live on the same piece of ground. What would you suggest I do to keep them free from worms. I have noticed one or two having poo on their bottom feathers. Is this bad? They are laying very well and look well too. They do prefer mash to pellets. They like to scoff the mash, and peck it off each others beaks. The pellets get left to go moldy. Do you throw the eggs away while treating them? Back to top CP Moderator Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 16074 Location: Hampshire Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: If you use Flubenvet then there is no withdrawal with the correct dosage. We only worm ours about twice a year, but in the interim we also use ACV which I think is supposed to discourage the worms. There are other natural wormers, but can't think at the moment (maybe carrot?) Someone else will know, I'm sure. There is also another natural wormer that summayah has mentioned before. Will have to do a search, perhaps? Back to top Motherbird Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Posts: 54 Location: Dorset Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Quite happy to use flubavent, (not sure of spelling) Where do I buy it? What do I do with it and can I eat the eggs? Back to top summayah Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 4289 Location: luton Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Flubenvet is very difficult to work out the dose on it, as it's really for production farms. The one I heard of was Verm-X ~ it's totally natural and comes with a measured dose thing to make it so much easier. Here's the link www.verm-x.com There's also no withdrawl period as it is 100% natural Back to top Itsybitsy Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 1443 Location: Leicestershire Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Flubenvet dose, half an ounce to 22lbs of feed, or if you're in grammes its 12 gms to 10kg, mix well, use daily for 7 days, no egg withdrawal at that dosage. Back to top Motherbird Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Posts: 54 Location: Dorset Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:18 am    Post subject: Thank you Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         The Poultry Keeper Forum Index -> Poultry Clinic All times are GMT + 1 Hour Goto page Previous  1, 2 Page 2 of 2 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group