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summayah
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| excellent news about the water stand pipe, Lisa ~ will help to protect your back too |
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milkmaid
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and don't forget to plant climbing french beans by the sweetcorn so it can use the sweetcorn as canes 
suz |
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Lisa
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: |
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Okay...
So that's the runner beans next to the sweetcorn. Climbing french beans growing up the sweetcorn. Winter squash rambling below everything in an attempt to take over the world... 
Ya'all forgot a quick catch crop of radish and lettuce early in the season before they all get going
Six veg from one area! Any other ideas? 
(pictures to follow - give me about 5 months!!)
PS - NannyP, hope I'm not still putting you off your potager. Think of it as we're all just doing the research in advance for you |
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stuffed
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Location: Milton Keynes
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I'm thinking of growing crown prince as these are supposed to keep really well and are good for pumpkin pies and other sweet recipes. Has anyone grown these before and is this information correct if not can you suggest a squash/pumpkin that fulfills both these needs.
That's a great tip about growing the french beans up the sweetcorn I've decided to grow both these so am pleased to find a space saving suggestion. |
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Sue B
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Just a little tip if your going to grow climbing french beans up sweetcorn. Use them as a late crop so that the sweetcorn cobs can set first otherwise the beans can take over and could cause problems with pollination as corn is wind pollinated not insect.
I fancy having a go at Crown Prince too, isn't it one of the ones Gardeners World trialed last year  |
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stuffed
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| No idea I just have a book which references it for keeping well and found some info on the web about it being good for pumpkin pie but I'd like to hear some confirmation of this. |
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Sue B
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Have had a look and bbc GW did trial Crown Prince. Here's the link for the results. I've not inserted a link before so sorry if it doesn't work 
www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/tv_and_radio/gardeners_world/pumpkintrial_index.shtml
If I've got it wrong go to the BBC gardeners world website and the trial is listed near the bottom of the index.
I've never tasted Pumpkin Pie!!!!!  |
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Lisa
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Wow - did a little google on crown prince:
This website says:
| Quote: | | Crown Prince, if grown in the garden and harvested properly, then kept cool and dry will keep for up to 9 months |
I thought 6 months would be good - but 9 months  Double wow!!
The only downside for me is that they were the biggest one of the ones I've had so far in my veggie box. Too much for us, but it might be a plus point for you?
Sue - thanks for the tip about the sweetcorn and french beans. I'll leave the french beans until later in the season now
PS Link works fine  |
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stuffed
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| Sue B wrote: |
I've never tasted Pumpkin Pie!!!!! |
I've admittedly only eaten it once in my life when I was in school but I remember it being similar to apple pie. Having said that I believe it was just a Halloween pumpkin flesh so probably not as tasty as a lot of varieties. I suppose I should try it again before I plant some |
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Lisa
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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LOL!! Perhaps I should try it too, I've never had pumpkin pie either
I've used it in veggie casseroles, roasted it, and my sister made soup with the one I gave her.... and I'm convinced its worth growing
Funny thing, my having a veg box this year. I've had several things arrive in it that I wouldn't normally buy. But since I've paid for them I tried them again (swede and pumpkin in particular) and I've grown to like them.
(Here's hoping for celeriac this week - although if I find a recipe I like, I'll have to grow some next year aswell as everything else ) |
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stuffed
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I've got quite a sweet tooth so anything like swede, parsnips, sweet potatoes Etc.... are frequently enjoyed. |
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Lisa
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| So have I.... chocolate, biscuits, ice-cream.... |
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stuffed
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Then more chocolate
Just out of curiosity where are your allotments Lisa and what is the soil like?
The nearest ones to me are awful heavy clay (just like my garden  ) but my parents have one which I'm sharing this year over in New Bradwell and the soil is lovely. I'm just surprised that there is so much difference that close. |
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Lisa
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| stuffed wrote: | Then more chocolate
Just out of curiosity where are your allotments Lisa and what is the soil like?
The nearest ones to me are awful heavy clay (just like my garden ) but my parents have one which I'm sharing this year over in New Bradwell and the soil is lovely. I'm just surprised that there is so much difference that close. |
I'm at Railway Meadows in Newport Pagnell. Not sure how best to describe the soil. I can tell you what its not! Its not heavy clay (Mum has that at home) neither is it sandy or chalky. It is quite stoney though, but from looking at adjoining allotments, it can grow some lovely stuff just fine.
The worst bit is that there's a lot of couch grass and horsetail weeds - but at least that's gotta be better than brambles and nettles that can fight back (got those trying to invade the garden at home from behind the back fence - an ongoing battle )
I did manage to cover part of the allotment last year, in an attempt to smother the weeds - but when I took it up in autumn, I just seemed to grown ants underneath  |
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Sue B
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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....also Pumpkin is fantastic in curry especially creamy hot coconut type.....yum
I've grown celeriac for the first time this year and I'll definitely be growing it again. Its lovely grated into coleslaw, roasted or our favorite method is a Jamie Oliver recipe (Happy days with the Naked Chef) where he mashes it after cooking it with olive oil, garlic and thyme and stock, its FANTASTIC....  kids love it too. |
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