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Lisa



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: How do you decide what to grow? Reply with quote

Right. I've got a 10 pole allotment, which I started part of last year. This year (back more or less better now - as long as I keep up the exercises) my aim is to grow a wide selection of veg all year round, if I can.

I've divided it up into equal areas for crop rotation as per The RHS website, got my compost bins going etc...

But how do I plan exactly what to grow and when!?

I've started with deciding on around 52 seed potatoes (one for each week of the year, assuming I can grow some that are recommended for storage).

But how do I avoid a glut of runner beans and courgettes in the summer? Or grow enough carrots? (We want loads of these). Or how can I plan to have something available at this time of year too? And how do I narrow down my list of my favourite 24 varieties of tomatoes (beware going to the Totally Tomato show - that's all I say Wink )

I'm finding it all rather confusing. Aaarrrggghhh....

So how do you grow your veg? Do you sit down and plan it all beforehand with military precision? Or do you just dive in with enthusiasm and see what you get?
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nigel
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we decide what to grow, by first looking at what we want to eat. Then picking varieties that taste of something rather than just grow big or look good on a show bench. I'd rather harvest a few misshapen whatevers that taste amazing than hundreds of perfect looking things that taste of nothing.

I don't know if you can avoid gluts of runner beans Confused
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Loudmouth Schnook



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for me, it depends on where you are, how wet and windy the climate is. I used to grow courgettes and runner beans when I lived in England, but have not attempted them up here in Lewis. It's far too wet for courgettes, they'd just rot and I would think the runner beans would just get blown over. Kale and cabbages do really well, but I'm not really keen on those! Trial and error - plant what you like to eat and see what does best.
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Lisa



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigel wrote:
I don't know if you can avoid gluts of runner beans Confused


Thank you Nigel Wink I'll tell the OH we just HAVE to buy the largest chest freezer I can find then Laughing

nigel wrote:
we decide what to grow, by first looking at what we want to eat.


Okay, so cross aubergines and broad beans off the list, but that's about it. Laughing (see my problem?) Its been worse since we've had the veggie box delivered. Now swede, celeriac and pumpkin are on the list (weren't before Confused )

nigel wrote:
Then picking varieties that taste of something rather than just grow big or look good on a show bench.


Yep, that's how I got it down to a list of 24 tomato varieties, from the 135 or so in the plants of distinction seed catalogue... Confused

nigel wrote:
I'd rather harvest a few misshapen whatevers that taste amazing than hundreds of perfect looking things that taste of nothing.


Totally agree...

But I'm still spoilt for choice with all the different veg and different varieties Laughing

(And no-one say get another allotment Rolling Eyes Laughing )
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Heather
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree - taste over quantity every time - but with some things you can get both Wink

You may get gluts of runner beans or other beans - but you can freeze / pickle then - nothing better in a crunchy picallili - homemade nothing like the pap you get fro H**nz or whoever makes it

I also grew a few varieties of beans that you use either fresh or let them grow bigger and dry them - one of my favourites was Borlotti Lingua de Fuaca (sp? )
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Lisa



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loudmouth Schnook wrote:
for me, it depends on where you are... Kale and cabbages do really well, but I'm not really keen on those!


Kinda in the midlands, so weather shouldn't be a problem.

Yup, Kale and cabbages are on the list (and cauliflower, and sprouting brocoli and cavelo nero and chinese veggies....).

I've read too many seed catalogues, haven't I Sad Embarassed
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Lisa



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heather wrote:
You may get gluts of runner beans or other beans - but you can freeze / pickle then - nothing better in a crunchy picallili - homemade nothing like the pap you get fro H**nz or whoever makes it


I'll be along for the recipes in the summer Wink

Heather wrote:
I also grew a few varieties of beans that you use either fresh or let them grow bigger and dry them - one of my favourites was Borlotti Lingua de Fuaca (sp? )


Noooooooooooooooooooo, you're not supposed to be ADDING things to my list Rolling Eyes

Laughing

(I read on another forum you can grow chick peas in this country too...)
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Heather
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL - just getting you back for putting in the links to those lovely seed catalogues

I found another one this morning too !!
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Lisa



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go on, do tell...
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Heather
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sure ??? Shocked this Kokopelli association should take you to the English version of the site , if not look around there is a union flag somewhere ( unless you can be bothered to read French)

Heather xx
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NannyP



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen you lot, can you stop this right now!!!

I've been struggling with my back for a couple of weeks, and all this talk of gardening, allotments and crop rotating is making it hurt even more. I am beginning to wonder how I'm gonna achieve a pottager when we live in France Shocked Sad
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Loudmouth Schnook



Joined: 01 Nov 2005
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Location: Back, Isle of Lewis

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have to take not only Cadbury's to France but... your own shiatsu therapist! Cool
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milkmaid



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the front garden is meant to be a pottager Rolling Eyes ducks
holly get a poly ,before yours blew down we had sweetcorn ,french beans ,courgettes ,peppers etc
Lisa started with one ended up with three, that's how we afforded to move up here ate nothing apart from what we grew and a couple of meat meals a week Cool
don't find the address for Wallis seeds ,they are not on line loads of stuff ,and chiltren seeds they are on line they're great
plan then throw out the window ,when planting and of course forget to label your rows when planting so when you really enjoy a flavor you carn't remember what the hell it was Embarassed
suz Embarassed
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Lisa



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heather wrote:
You sure ??? Shocked this Kokopelli association should take you to the English version of the site , if not look around there is a union flag somewhere ( unless you can be bothered to read French)

Heather xx


OMG! Shocked 600 VARIETIES OF TOMATOES!!

Serve me right for asking Laughing
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stuffed



Joined: 09 Oct 2005
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Location: Milton Keynes

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mum and dad have an allotment in New Bradwell and I may be sharing it this year but I can't decide what to grow either. I know I'm gonna have cucumbers because my little boy loves them and I grew some this year, they were nice and easy. I'll also be growing some potatoes but not huge numbers just a few for the earlies Wink apart from that I can't decide Rolling Eyes
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