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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: How do you decide what to grow? |
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Right. I've got a 10 pole allotment, which I started part of last year. This year (back more or less better now - as long as I keep up the exercises) my aim is to grow a wide selection of veg all year round, if I can.
I've divided it up into equal areas for crop rotation as per The RHS website, got my compost bins going etc...
But how do I plan exactly what to grow and when!?
I've started with deciding on around 52 seed potatoes (one for each week of the year, assuming I can grow some that are recommended for storage).
But how do I avoid a glut of runner beans and courgettes in the summer? Or grow enough carrots? (We want loads of these). Or how can I plan to have something available at this time of year too? And how do I narrow down my list of my favourite 24 varieties of tomatoes (beware going to the Totally Tomato show - that's all I say )
I'm finding it all rather confusing. Aaarrrggghhh....
So how do you grow your veg? Do you sit down and plan it all beforehand with military precision? Or do you just dive in with enthusiasm and see what you get? |
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nigel Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 2339 Location: Skåne, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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we decide what to grow, by first looking at what we want to eat. Then picking varieties that taste of something rather than just grow big or look good on a show bench. I'd rather harvest a few misshapen whatevers that taste amazing than hundreds of perfect looking things that taste of nothing.
I don't know if you can avoid gluts of runner beans  |
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Loudmouth Schnook
Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 1594 Location: Back, Isle of Lewis
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| for me, it depends on where you are, how wet and windy the climate is. I used to grow courgettes and runner beans when I lived in England, but have not attempted them up here in Lewis. It's far too wet for courgettes, they'd just rot and I would think the runner beans would just get blown over. Kale and cabbages do really well, but I'm not really keen on those! Trial and error - plant what you like to eat and see what does best. |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| nigel wrote: | I don't know if you can avoid gluts of runner beans  |
Thank you Nigel I'll tell the OH we just HAVE to buy the largest chest freezer I can find then
| nigel wrote: | | we decide what to grow, by first looking at what we want to eat. |
Okay, so cross aubergines and broad beans off the list, but that's about it. (see my problem?) Its been worse since we've had the veggie box delivered. Now swede, celeriac and pumpkin are on the list (weren't before )
| nigel wrote: | | Then picking varieties that taste of something rather than just grow big or look good on a show bench. |
Yep, that's how I got it down to a list of 24 tomato varieties, from the 135 or so in the plants of distinction seed catalogue...
| nigel wrote: | | I'd rather harvest a few misshapen whatevers that taste amazing than hundreds of perfect looking things that taste of nothing. |
Totally agree...
But I'm still spoilt for choice with all the different veg and different varieties
(And no-one say get another allotment ) |
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Heather Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 3969 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I agree - taste over quantity every time - but with some things you can get both
You may get gluts of runner beans or other beans - but you can freeze / pickle then - nothing better in a crunchy picallili - homemade nothing like the pap you get fro H**nz or whoever makes it
I also grew a few varieties of beans that you use either fresh or let them grow bigger and dry them - one of my favourites was Borlotti Lingua de Fuaca (sp? ) |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Loudmouth Schnook wrote: | | for me, it depends on where you are... Kale and cabbages do really well, but I'm not really keen on those! |
Kinda in the midlands, so weather shouldn't be a problem.
Yup, Kale and cabbages are on the list (and cauliflower, and sprouting brocoli and cavelo nero and chinese veggies....).
I've read too many seed catalogues, haven't I  |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Heather wrote: | | You may get gluts of runner beans or other beans - but you can freeze / pickle then - nothing better in a crunchy picallili - homemade nothing like the pap you get fro H**nz or whoever makes it |
I'll be along for the recipes in the summer
| Heather wrote: | | I also grew a few varieties of beans that you use either fresh or let them grow bigger and dry them - one of my favourites was Borlotti Lingua de Fuaca (sp? ) |
Noooooooooooooooooooo, you're not supposed to be ADDING things to my list
(I read on another forum you can grow chick peas in this country too...) |
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Heather Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 3969 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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LOL - just getting you back for putting in the links to those lovely seed catalogues
I found another one this morning too !! |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Go on, do tell... |
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Heather Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 3969 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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You sure ??? this Kokopelli association should take you to the English version of the site , if not look around there is a union flag somewhere ( unless you can be bothered to read French)
Heather xx |
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NannyP
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 10941 Location: 86310 Nr St Savin
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Listen you lot, can you stop this right now!!!
I've been struggling with my back for a couple of weeks, and all this talk of gardening, allotments and crop rotating is making it hurt even more. I am beginning to wonder how I'm gonna achieve a pottager when we live in France  |
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Loudmouth Schnook
Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 1594 Location: Back, Isle of Lewis
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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You'll have to take not only Cadbury's to France but... your own shiatsu therapist!  |
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milkmaid
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6972 Location: isle of lewis
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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the front garden is meant to be a pottager ducks
holly get a poly ,before yours blew down we had sweetcorn ,french beans ,courgettes ,peppers etc
Lisa started with one ended up with three, that's how we afforded to move up here ate nothing apart from what we grew and a couple of meat meals a week
don't find the address for Wallis seeds ,they are not on line loads of stuff ,and chiltren seeds they are on line they're great
plan then throw out the window ,when planting and of course forget to label your rows when planting so when you really enjoy a flavor you carn't remember what the hell it was
suz  |
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Lisa
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 3236 Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Heather wrote: | You sure ??? this Kokopelli association should take you to the English version of the site , if not look around there is a union flag somewhere ( unless you can be bothered to read French)
Heather xx |
OMG! 600 VARIETIES OF TOMATOES!!
Serve me right for asking  |
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stuffed
Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 50 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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My mum and dad have an allotment in New Bradwell and I may be sharing it this year but I can't decide what to grow either. I know I'm gonna have cucumbers because my little boy loves them and I grew some this year, they were nice and easy. I'll also be growing some potatoes but not huge numbers just a few for the earlies apart from that I can't decide  |
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