The Poultry Keeper

wee_scot_chick · Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 86 Location: isle of lewis

hello, this is 1 for the horsey people, does any one know of a way to keep Paddie's head up, and helping get him back in work so he can do some serous work during the winter because the plan so far is that we're getting some waterproof gear and will be riding when ever we can because the paddies can't stay on the croft as long so me and my boss's wife will be riding out, but the older Paddie doesn't want to work, has been out of work for 3 or 4 years he's coming back into serous working slowly but he's still very lazy and just stops to eat the grass all the time, i can left his head but my boss's wife has problems with her hands and as he's a Clydesdale cross he's very heavy headed, i think i will be riding him but would prefer to polish him off and work with the younger Paddie but i love them both and i don't know if my boss will sell them if we're having problems so i need to sort this soon1 any ideas would be very helpful
gizmo

Deb_Moderator · Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 3661

I know exactly what you are talking about. I can picture the apparatus clearly in my mind, but for the life of me, I can not remember what it is called.

You are looking for a strap that runs from the head stall to the breast strap. It was used long ago to make the carriage horses look elegant with their necks arched and their heads down. It was found to be inhumane to the horses, but you will not be using it for such a manner.

Yours can be set up to be loose enough to give the horse movement of head. But this will keep it from reaching down to the ground. Wink

(now...if only I could remember the name of it.... Laughing

)

debcat · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:34 am Post subject:

Daisy chain Laughing

I've got one you can try, it might not fit but it's massive on midas.
it fixes to the top of the bridle then goes down the top of the neck and fixes to the D rings on the front of the saddle

Debs

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7339 Location: isle of lewis

gizmo says your an angel ,
suz

CP · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject:

In the old days I think it used to be called a bearing-rein. And yes, it was classed as inhumane as it was used then.

If my memory serves me correctly, ( Rolling Eyes

) it was written about in the classic book 'Black Beauty'.

Having been out of the 'horsey' world for so long, Embarassed

I don't know of a modern equivalent, but no doubt there is one, albeit a more humane version! Wink

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7339 Location: isle of lewis

your right ,about black beauty ,this is a strap that runs to stop him from eatting grass all the time ,he threw her the other day but it wasn't to bad ,as they were riding along a beach ,told her she has plenty more to go (this was her first fall ),
suz

jaydee67 · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:40 pm Post subject:

Craig had his first fall a couple of weeks ago on a trek off an Icelandic. Hurt his ankle, but didn't even get a bruise, much to the complete surprise of the riding school.

aliceb · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:02 am Post subject:

I don't know whether this is the correct method or not, but at the riding school I used to work at many moons ago, with the fat little kids ponies we just used to tie baler twine loosly from the ring on the bit to the d ring on the saddle (on both sides obviously). Only did it loosly so as not to hamper their movement, but tight enough so that they couldn't get their head down to the grass. You might have to try something other that baler twine as it's a clydesdale. Other than that you used to be able to get those net muzzles that allowed them to drink but not to eat. With ours if you put them on every time you went out they soon got tired of trying. They were often more effective than the side strings as the ponies soon learnt that even though they couldnt reach the groundthey could pull side ways and reach the hedges and bushes!! Also don't dressage riders uses some sort of leather strap btn saddle and bridle when training to get a good neck arch?

DownWithFactoryFarming · Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 33

well if all else is failed (i.e. training and riding) then I guess you will need a martingale. running or standing, running is the one that goes around the horses neck, then splits into 2 straps which have rings on the end that the reins loop thru. the standing one, is the same as the running, except there is only one strap, which you can attach to the underside of the nose band or the throat lash, but go between the horses legs and attach to the girth. Hope I helped lol. Embarassed

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7339 Location: isle of lewis

it's alright we now use a daisy rain on short ries which helps keep his head up and stops him grazing all the time .
suz

Vivienne · Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Salisbury Plain

Hi, the easiest thing to do is..... tie baler twine to the bit, thread it through the browband then down the neck to the D rings on the saddle. You have your reins as normal, the horse doesnt suspect anything till he tries to put his head down...hehehehehe then he cant! It works a treat and is not inhumane at all. Viv PS if you dont want the horse........ i would love to take him on. 3,000 acare farm to live on alongside the oldest and largest herd of Cleveland bays on the planet. This is our web site if you would like to see what its like here... www.sustainable-cholderton.co.uk Regards, viv

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7339 Location: isle of lewis

no he's not for sale he's ride and drive and a fantastic horse he's just got a little lazy ,the daisy rein has sorted the problem and he's working well
suz