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Keeping a dog to scare off foxes

 
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Serena



Joined: 01 May 2008
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Keeping a dog to scare off foxes Reply with quote

We really want to get chickens but have a healthy fox living nearby. Would getting a dog deter him from eating our chickens?
If so, what kind of dog is compatible with chickens, and can also live easily in a backyard?
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Serena
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Muddiwarx



Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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Location: Nr Manchester, UK

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you actually want a dog and have the time/ inclination. desire to walk and train etc a dog??

Not many dogs would be happy in a backyard all day (and night?) even if walked etc - they like to be part of the family.
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CP
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be better off getting some secure electric fencing/netting instead. Wink

A dog will deter foxes to some extent but what happens when you take it for a walk - it won't be near the chickens then.
A nice idea in theory but it shouldn't be the main reason for getting a dog. Wink
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le gallois



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Location: coussac-bonneval. haute vienne

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dog will not stop a fox from visiting you.The only way is to make sure the chickens are locked up at night.
PS if the fox has young,it will sometimes take the chickens in daylight.
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mojo



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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont buy a dog buy a gun or electric fencing they are the only 2 ways to stop a fox thats determined
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Elly



Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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Location: Norfolk

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure buying a gun when you live in London would be a good idea Laughing
Plus it's hardly the foxes fault that food is made so easily available, he has to eat too Cool
Get some good fencing, a secure coop and hope nature is good to you.
My bungalow is surrounded by fields and we have never had a visit from the fox, despite seeing him about. Mind you there is a farm with chickens nearby.
We do have a dog, but she has her own outdoor bit and is not near the chickens. I wonder if my cockerel has a bigger role in deterring the fox Question
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Elly
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Chris Kurzfeld



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Location: Carmarthenshire

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are in the same type of situation as you Elly but we have 7 dogs that have access to the paddocks where the chickens and sheep are which I think helps. We do have a cockerel, who is going to the great cockerel place in the sky soon as he keeps attacking me, that doesn't bat an eye around the dogs so not sure what he would do to a fox.

Have heard that male urine helps keep them away or human hair - don't know if it's true Very Happy .
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CP
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Human hair, urine & dogs all work to a degree, but they really can't be relied upon to be 100% effective. Wink

AR & the boys sometimes pee outside Embarassed but just like a fox scent marks, it has to be done on a regular basis. Wink
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Chris Kurzfeld



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hubby is always out working in and around the paddock, especially near the chicken run, he doesn't bother to come in Embarassed so it fairly consistant Embarassed .
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Kitsune



Joined: 13 Mar 2008
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Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something I just found out when researching the legality of releasing foxes is this...

natural England wrote:
The Hunting Act 2004 makes the hunting with dogs of wild mammals, including foxes, illegal. This includes deliberately using dogs to chase foxes away from gardens, allotments etc.


So the answer to the original question is - No, you can't keep a dog to scare off foxes, it's illegal.


Last edited by Kitsune on Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
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jubilee



Joined: 04 Jun 2008
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Location: nottinghamshire

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand, if you had a dog and it alerted you to the presence of a fox on your property, that's not illegal, and as to wether your dog attacked it, with no command from you, but as a natural thing which dogs do, then legally you're fine. fine line to tred, but it's there, and that's how the hunt get away with it when exercising the hounds!
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Teasal



Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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Location: High Peak Derbyshire

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We live on a farm and have chickens, and also 8 dogs. Five of the dogs live outdoors in kennels with runs.

Every night, my OH goes to let the dogs have a run in the fields, and there is one, and sometimes two foxes sitting right outside the kennel doors. Most morning we find feathers from ducks and pigeons in the field outside the kennels. The dogs bark, and even chase the foxes over the fields, but it does not deter them from returning every evening.

So, in answer to your question, no, I don't think a dog would be the answer, not unless it was roaming loose next to the chickens. In that case, how could you be sure the dog itself would not kill the chickens!!!

A dog is a lifelong commitment, and believe me, they take up a lot of your time feeding, walking etc. not to mention vet bills for injections and the worming and de fleaing costs. Before you can go out, or away even for a night, you have to make arrangements for the dog.
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