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Serena
Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 1 Location: London
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: Keeping a dog to scare off foxes |
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We really want to get chickens but have a healthy fox living nearby. Would getting a dog deter him from eating our chickens?
If so, what kind of dog is compatible with chickens, and can also live easily in a backyard?
Thanks
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Muddiwarx
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 90 Location: Nr Manchester, UK
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Do you actually want a dog and have the time/ inclination. desire to walk and train etc a dog??
Not many dogs would be happy in a backyard all day (and night?) even if walked etc - they like to be part of the family. |
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CP Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 15428 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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You'd be better off getting some secure electric fencing/netting instead.
A dog will deter foxes to some extent but what happens when you take it for a walk - it won't be near the chickens then.
A nice idea in theory but it shouldn't be the main reason for getting a dog.  |
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le gallois
Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 17 Location: coussac-bonneval. haute vienne
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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A dog will not stop a fox from visiting you.The only way is to make sure the chickens are locked up at night.
PS if the fox has young,it will sometimes take the chickens in daylight. |
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mojo
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 10482 Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| dont buy a dog buy a gun or electric fencing they are the only 2 ways to stop a fox thats determined |
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Elly
Joined: 18 Apr 2008 Posts: 289 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure buying a gun when you live in London would be a good idea
Plus it's hardly the foxes fault that food is made so easily available, he has to eat too
Get some good fencing, a secure coop and hope nature is good to you.
My bungalow is surrounded by fields and we have never had a visit from the fox, despite seeing him about. Mind you there is a farm with chickens nearby.
We do have a dog, but she has her own outdoor bit and is not near the chickens. I wonder if my cockerel has a bigger role in deterring the fox
Keep smilin
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Chris Kurzfeld
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1394 Location: Carmarthenshire
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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We are in the same type of situation as you Elly but we have 7 dogs that have access to the paddocks where the chickens and sheep are which I think helps. We do have a cockerel, who is going to the great cockerel place in the sky soon as he keeps attacking me, that doesn't bat an eye around the dogs so not sure what he would do to a fox.
Have heard that male urine helps keep them away or human hair - don't know if it's true . |
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CP Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 15428 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Human hair, urine & dogs all work to a degree, but they really can't be relied upon to be 100% effective.
AR & the boys sometimes pee outside but just like a fox scent marks, it has to be done on a regular basis.  |
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Chris Kurzfeld
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1394 Location: Carmarthenshire
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hubby is always out working in and around the paddock, especially near the chicken run, he doesn't bother to come in so it fairly consistant . |
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Kitsune
Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 1334 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Something I just found out when researching the legality of releasing foxes is this...
| natural England wrote: | | The Hunting Act 2004 makes the hunting with dogs of wild mammals, including foxes, illegal. This includes deliberately using dogs to chase foxes away from gardens, allotments etc. |
So the answer to the original question is - No, you can't keep a dog to scare off foxes, it's illegal.
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jubilee
Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 113 Location: nottinghamshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| On the other hand, if you had a dog and it alerted you to the presence of a fox on your property, that's not illegal, and as to wether your dog attacked it, with no command from you, but as a natural thing which dogs do, then legally you're fine. fine line to tred, but it's there, and that's how the hunt get away with it when exercising the hounds! |
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Teasal
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 315 Location: High Peak Derbyshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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We live on a farm and have chickens, and also 8 dogs. Five of the dogs live outdoors in kennels with runs.
Every night, my OH goes to let the dogs have a run in the fields, and there is one, and sometimes two foxes sitting right outside the kennel doors. Most morning we find feathers from ducks and pigeons in the field outside the kennels. The dogs bark, and even chase the foxes over the fields, but it does not deter them from returning every evening.
So, in answer to your question, no, I don't think a dog would be the answer, not unless it was roaming loose next to the chickens. In that case, how could you be sure the dog itself would not kill the chickens!!!
A dog is a lifelong commitment, and believe me, they take up a lot of your time feeding, walking etc. not to mention vet bills for injections and the worming and de fleaing costs. Before you can go out, or away even for a night, you have to make arrangements for the dog. |
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