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vanessa



Joined: 24 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww bless!! Reminds me of when our Bess was tiny Very Happy
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bronskibeat



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Location: Clawddnewydd

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wait, she's lulling them into a false sense of security Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing
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Auntie Katie



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
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Location: Cambridgeshire

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm puppy and baby sitting on Friday night - you can bet your life thats when she'll turn in to a stinker. It will be really hard to decide who and what I want to cuddle more - she also has the most gorgeous grown up Border Collie who loves a cuddle with me. She isn't allowed on the settee but is allowed on my lap and has worked out how she can get up without placing a single claw on any part of the material. Very Happy
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EGirl



Joined: 01 Nov 2007
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Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the baby isn't going to get a look in! Very Happy
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Sue B



Joined: 18 Oct 2005
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Location: Lincolnshire

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to confess I'm not a doggy type. My three boys and OH would all like one and no doubt one day I'll succumb. I've always thought border collies are quiite appealing, A family I used to be babysitter for (hundreds of years ago) had two and I used to take them for long walks and really liked them. Whenever I say to people that I think if I had a dog it would be a Border Collie they warn me off saying they have too much energy. Is this a problem even if they have lots of excercise?
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milkmaid



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
Posts: 6621
Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i find it is but i love them anyway ,we have just got a dog back ( i hope the person who had it doesn't mind me saying ,she needed more work /mental exercise than it was possible to give ,for some very good reasons,not the persons fault Crying or Very sad )
but meg is lovely
and i'm glad she came back to us Smile
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bronskibeat



Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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Location: Clawddnewydd

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sue B wrote:
Is this a problem even if they have lots of excercise?



oooooohhhh yes Rolling Eyes Providing you have got lots of time, plenty of outside space or access to such and are prepared to invent all sorts of games for them to work out, they are great dogs to have. Trouble is when they are small, they cant have the exercise required so a fair few go on to develop behavioural problems because their owners cant mentally stimulate them instead Sad I used to go to a puppy class where there was a woman with a collie pup who was having huge problems because it had turned into a car chaser. She was very proud of the fact that the pup came from proper working sheepdog lines.....shame the woman lived in a flat in Stockport and worked all day........... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil I have to say, I wasnt very happy and asked her if, as it was a "proper" working sheepdog, she had some sheep for it to work........ Needless to say, I stopped going soon after as I couldnt bear to see the pup becoming cowed when handled as she was obviously being very tough on it.
My youngster is a blimmin nightmare, he swears there is no such word as "settle" or "sleep" and he is out with me all day every day on the farm. My best dog Moss was a totally different ball game. He was amazingly calm and everyone commented on it. Unfortunately, he suffered from separation anxiety and would sing loudly and tunefully if I left him in a room by himself or in the car/lorry or even at the vets Laughing Laughing I could hear him singing if I rang the vets to see when I could collect him Rolling Eyes Bless you Moss, I do miss you loads darling xx
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milkmaid



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Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meg is from sheepdog lines (nonie chose her )and she needs an awful lot
i remember roughly the same thing happening at our puppy class
somebody had watched one man and his dog and watched crufts obedience
brought the pup along fantastic little red merle dog ,he had got it to sit with a tit bit and a down and was saying that he would be showing it and winning everything ,it got a bit older and if it made a fool of him ,then he would come down like a ton of bricks stopped coming and then i noticed an add in the paper phoned because it sounded like the same dog and he said that they had discovered his son was allergic to it ,i knew he didn't have a son Rolling Eyes,
north is much calmer than pax(pax sings) ,i'd say meg is between the 2
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debcat
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Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Isle of Lewis

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cassie is really nervous with people and places she doesn't know. She's small for a collie and always skinny no matter how much you feed her. She's incredibly fast and will run and run all day. She's not much good with the sheep but is ok at rounding ducks up.
Toby is loads calmer and as active as most collies,
he's starting to show a bit of promise with the sheep.
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Auntie Katie



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
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Location: Cambridgeshire

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well BB, you were right! She is very very cute but when I babysat last night she was a stinker! Very Happy

She has pin sharp teeth that she likes to attach to any part of your anatomy she can find which last night included fingers, toes, nose, lips and eyebrows! She terrorised poor libby (the older dog and butted in everytime we tried to have a cuddle), and even though she was exhausted she wouldn't give in and go to sleep (and neither would one of the children!) Eventually I took her out for a wee and put her in her cage and she zonked out in seconds! Then she looked adorable snoring her head off! Very Happy

5 minutes before her mum was due home she poo'd on the floor Embarassed , then while I was sorting that out she wee'd on the floor Embarassed THEN she poo'd on the floor again, stepped in it and walked it all over the carpet! Embarassed Embarassed

When my friends got home there was one screaming hysterical child and puppy poo everywhere! Not sure I'll be invited back there any time soon! Very Happy
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EGirl



Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 468
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing
You'd fit right in in our house Katie! Wink
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Kitsune



Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Posts: 452
Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sue B wrote:
Is this a problem even if they have lots of excercise?


I'll add my voice to the agreements here - they need a lot of stimulation, not necessarily exercise - thing is if you give a dog loads of exercise it makes them fitter, which makes them need/want more exercise.

My border collie was fantastic, we went out on a daily walk but not too far, I taught him how to herd the chickens (well, I think he taught me really) and he adored playing with Shadow. Mental stimulation is really the key to a happy, healthy border collie.
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Auntie Katie



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
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Location: Cambridgeshire

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, Paige's mum has another Border Collie and she does a lot of agility training and shows with her and Paige will start that when she's a bit older.

I have a Border Collie that I rehomed because he came with a big black hairy beast that I desperately wanted. The shelter seemed only to happy for us to take them both and we weren't really given any indication of what work we ought to put in with him. I absolutely adore him, he is a complete mummy's boy but I have to say I wouldn't have one again. I'm sure that if we didn't have the other dog he would be mad with frustration. His previous owners had looked after him well but he had had no training, he has no idea how to play - with other dogs or people althought my OH has been working hard on that and he is starting to enjoy games with us now. We are a bit of a lazy bunch and the other dog is perfect for us but as much as I love him I think anybody wanting a border collie should really consider what they may be taking on.

Wagsy Woo Woo is a very precious boy and fortunately for us one of his favourite hobbies is sleeping! Very Happy

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