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Henwife
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3202 Location: Monmouthshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Naked neck bantams |
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| Five new chicks this morning. Three with completely naked necks and two with one feather each. As only one of my four hens has a completely bare neck, as has the unrelated cock, I can hardly believe my luck. More eggs in the incubator. |
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Hen-Gen
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 229 Location: Derbyshire and Shetland
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Great news, henwife. The geneticists would say that the expectation from that breeding pen (assuming all hens lay the same number of eggs and are equally fertile) is 60% pure NaNa chicks with clean necks and 40% impure Nana+ chicks with the tassel on the throat.
Hope the rest of the hatchlings continue to realise your hopes. |
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Clucky
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 2182 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Ooooh Henwife, that's good! What colour pray ? I have a bantam with a bib and a rose comb, but she is cute more like a pekin in shape  |
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Henwife
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3202 Location: Monmouthshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Beetle black. I shall try to get a goodly flock of these I think before getting more adventurous. The two who hatched 10 days ago are 'mothering' the new ones which is rather sweet. |
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JustChickens
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 855 Location: Sussex
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Congrats on the new chicks! Just my opinion, but i find naked necks really ugly ! they look so odd. |
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Gilly C
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 2474 Location: South Cumbria
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| so sorry me too ! |
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Clucky
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 2182 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Wait til they gobble a worm!!!!!
Lovely colour, the sheen would be stunning! |
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Henwife
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3202 Location: Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| TNNs are a love them or loathe them bird. The chicks are really endearing, but then I rather like vultures too. There are a lot of people who even consider guinea fowl too vulture-like to keep. |
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JustChickens
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 855 Location: Sussex
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Is the "naked neck" a natural occurance, or have they been bred to get like that? because if they have then why would anyone want a chicken with a naked neck. |
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Hen-Gen
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 229 Location: Derbyshire and Shetland
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Depends what you mean. The first one must have happened naturally because we have no way to make genes spontaneously mutate. But from then on it would have been deliberately bred to increase numbers with the same mutation.
Whilst naked necks don't particularly appeal to me either one of the subsidiary effects of this gene is that it reduces by about 50% the number of feathers on the rest of the body aswell. This makes the breed very heat tolerant and productive in hot climates and so is widely kept in some countries eg Israel.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally I cannot abide Frizzle chickens or Sebastopol Geese but each to their own!  |
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Clucky
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 2182 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Hen-Gen wrote: | Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally I cannot abide Frizzle chickens or Sebastopol Geese but each to their own!  |
Sacrilege!!! I LOVE my frizzle
TNN's do well in cold weather as well! For some reason mine prefer being outside, well until they were introduced to the cockerel  |
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Henwife
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3202 Location: Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| When one considers the rather chilly part of Eastern Europe from which they originate, it's easy to understand why they do well in cold climates. I believe it was the Israelis who tried to breed a completely naked chicken to save the bother of plucking......they suffered from sunburn. |
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sunnyside
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 245 Location: Birmingham
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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they are an old breed that was kept by peasents in eastern europe as a straight utility bird-not for showing nor for looks but because they are very practical. cope very well with hot summers and poor feed but equally well with very cold winters. lay a lot, good broodies, good natured in flock, reputed to have good disease resistence and of course very quick and easy to pluck!
I really am impressed with my lot (large fowl version). eggs are big and very plentiful. sweet natured to extent that my grower gang at one point ranged from two week to 14 weeks old in one pen-with babies using older growers as heat sources. don't eat you out of house and home. mothering skills..well one of mine went broody on Sunday-I gave her a 4 day old chick on Tuesday and shes now raising it within the flock. |
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