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robl
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 20 Location: north shropshie
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: small patch ideas |
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I have dug out a cottage garden border,it is around 3foot wide and 20foot long,also managed to squeeze a 6x6 greenhouse in at the end of it.
Come on then what should I grow,most I've done before is a few potato buckets.
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milkmaid
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6622 Location: isle of lewis
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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have a search for square foot gardening you'd be surprised what you can grow .
french beans are good and so are runners  |
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vanessa
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 860 Location: Correze
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Sugar-snap peas, good "value for space" as you eat the whole thing. A small block of super-sweet sweetcorn - maybe 3 plants one way by 4 the other (fresh sweetcorn from the garden is to die for!!)
Cut and come again salads, especially if you can plant a mix of leaves in there - will keep producing for several weeks. |
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Dusty
Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 249 Location: St. Asaph
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Broad Beans, fresh from the garden are fantastic and really easy to grow.
I tried sweetcorn last year and it was rubbish, any tips Vanessa will be appreciated, mine were suppose to be baby corn, but I missed that stage somewhere and the resulting cobs did not ripen enough to eat!!!!!!!!!  |
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vanessa
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 860 Location: Correze
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I've not tried baby corn, only the full-size stuff. Even with the dreadful summer we had last year (yes, even here in France!), the corn survived and we had some lovely fat cobs from it.
Tips. Always plant in a block rather than in 1 straight row, as it's wind-pollinated. So minimum I'd say is 9 plants in 3 x 3 rows. Sow in root-trainers or anything that'll allow deep root-growth in a pot, in mid-April (I use loo-roll middles for mine, then plant the whole lot - the roots go through the tube and that eventually rots down). Plant-out deep and firm after ALL risks of frost have passed. Test the cobs when the tassles have gone brown ... peel back a bit of the green casing and press one kernel with your thumb-nail - the juices should be milky.
For the VERY best sweetcorn, get the pan of water boiling before you go and pick the corn!! |
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Woodburner
Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 478 Location: Deepest Essex, well, a village...
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Carrots are top of my list. I'm fed up of tasteless shop bought ones that turn to mush after two or three days. Cut and come again lettuce and spring onions are next, and maybe the rest of the salad too.  |
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milkmaid
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6622 Location: isle of lewis
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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you could also do the 3 sisters
you plant sweetcorn under planted with climbing french beans so they climb the sweetcorn and then ground cover is planted with corgette i've done it that way in portsmouth and it worked  |
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vanessa
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 860 Location: Correze
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Milkmaid, didn't you find it impossible to harvest the beans? I believe it was originally maize (picked "ripe" rather than like sweetcorn), dried beans and pumpkins - so all 3 were harvested at the end of the season, in one go.
Of course, for anyone tempted to try the 3 sisters, it's very important to have high fertility to start with, or all 3 will fail. |
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Woodburner
Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 478 Location: Deepest Essex, well, a village...
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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You can leave french beans til they are ripe and dry them as haricots. There is a variety called Borlotto Firetongue that I want to try. (Dobies have it.) |
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milkmaid
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6622 Location: isle of lewis
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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in rows 4 by 4 it was ok when you start getting bigger it is a problem across my allotment it was divided into little blocks ,manure was free from the stables well rotted ,just slave labour ,of children to move it in a wheel barrow  |
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robgodfrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 65 Location: Otley, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Dusty wrote: | I tried sweetcorn last year and it was rubbish, any tips Vanessa will be appreciated, mine were suppose to be baby corn, but I missed that stage somewhere and the resulting cobs did not ripen enough to eat!!!!!!!!!  |
Don't worry, last year was a really bad one for sweet corn - I usually get lots of nice fat cobs but all that rain prevented them being properly fertilised and most cobs had very few ripe kernals on them. I am sure this year will be better! As long as they are in a block and the weather is moderately kind they should be fine. |
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Dusty
Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 249 Location: St. Asaph
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tips with sweetcorn.
I use the loo roll inners for sweetcorn (and broad beans too). Guess it must have been the bad weather we had then. The wild birds however enjoyed them and stripped what I left bare!!
I planted sooooo many broad beans I thought i'd have enough to freeze, - no chance we ate them by the bucket load, and they were also 'robbed' by friends visiting who ate them from the pod.
Little chartenay carrots are lovely fresh also aswell as salad leaves.
My girls have assissted in clearing the polytunnel so i'm going out there tomorrow to clear it ready for this seasons planting, i'm late doing it i know but the weather has not encouraged me.  |
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milkmaid
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6622 Location: isle of lewis
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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i've got a week off work so my girls are being moved out of mine today  |
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robl
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 20 Location: north shropshie
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Ooh so many ideas! many thanks. I have looked at square foot gardening milkmaid,seems like the way forward I can fit 2 of the 4x4 frames easily.
Have just orderd the book on Ebay .
Ahh well I guess its off to try and find a supplier of scaffold planks - will post piccys when done.
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layla
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 517 Location: West Midlands
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| cougette hen they are in season easy peasy |
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