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Tracey Morris · Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 285 Location: South Wales

Now then, this is what I hate about legislation.

The authorities latch onto it, because they have to, but in that we the people they work for end up losing out and having to paper push. Mad

Yes everything you have said is correct. I had an inspection January 2007 and passed Very Happy

They had been aware, because I told them, that the animals and fowl wander. They had no problems with the fowl and when informed about the goats they were quite relaxed about it and just said try to keep them in. Which obviously we try/tried to do.

Local land owners are the same as us, drench, trim, etc regularly and any illnesses passed on to the other land owners. I think if everyone is careful and methodical some slight things can be 'overlooked'.

Remember also that my goats only travel to my place once bought - they don't go anywhere else, shows or breeding - billy comes to us Very Happy

I think as the Local Authority looked at it as long as they aren't going far - neighbouring fields, etc (forget about the mountain as she was coerced by hikers feeding her) there shouldn't be a problem.

The Inspecting Officer said she would probably leave me as long as possible before inspecting me again as the animals were in good condition (and came when called for a tidbit Embarassed

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I really admire you that you know all this and have tried to educate people but I really think it is unfair what regimes are brought into being because of Europe Confused

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6740 Location: isle of lewis

any way ntsmama
i'm sure you have enough land ,if you heft them you only have to do it with the first goats as debcat described (if done properly they pass it on to the next Wink

),and 3 strands of electric wire if you are somewhere windy it stays put better ,not to expensive Very Happy

with plastic fence post you can move it around and cut down your having to use any drugs which is Cool

,they shouldn't wonder ,as i said mine are productive goats, so they'd eat a lot more than a couple of pet goats as they will only need a maintence ration Wink

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goat people tend to be a bit passionate Wink

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6740 Location: isle of lewis

i've got to add this as i've seen other people slated on other places for asking about walking goats on a collar and lead
i was planning on doing it with my goats ,and thought it was totally unfair when alpaca's and llama's could go on llama treks so phoned defra twice spoke to 2 different supervisers on different days ,and it could at the time be done ,loads of rules surrounding it but it is possible Wink

,although if all movement is stopped due to foot and mouth or ai when nothing comes on here or off or should do anywhere
and did you know there is something called a pig walking license ,the route must be checked by a vet ,and it has to be entered in a book ,no entering an other holding number ,cleaning up any poo ect
that was why i phoned llama's as far as i'm aware are the same family as goats and if those and pigs can be walked Evil or Very Mad

,but i'd check again
i suppose i'm just cross about the whole thing watching a way of life here die because of things like the aml rules (65km rule) is just sad

it only takes a phone call and ask for a letter back to confirm it covers your back Wink

,there are some things that if you really look you can do or they have never thought of Wink

i'd recheck this info as it's been 18 months since i phoned and you know how these things change Question

,i'll ask my sac adviser

ps mine don't do it though ,they don't like the idea of cars going passed Wink

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pps ,i'd get any male goats that are going to the childrens farm dehorned
health and safety don't like horns near children personally never found the goats have a problem with it Wink

i like horns ,but several childrens farms have had to give their goats away because of horns Wink

,just a heads up Wink

Tracey Morris · Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 285 Location: South Wales

Do you know you have touched upon a point I have wanted to ask for ages Cool

I would love to take my goats for a walk, they woudl follow eagerly.

What about driving goats? Are they different?

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6740 Location: isle of lewis

no they are not different ,wethers are often driven (more power and need to earn their keep somehow)there is a thread some where on driving goats ,the Amish make fantastic goat carts ,there are also goat rotivators ,there is also a british goat driving society
as i said phone first to ask , Wink

,things might have changed with foot and mouth and everything last year ,get it from the horses mouth so to speak ,i've just looked back over the forum and it must have been ages ago as i cannot find where i posted it ,so i'd ingnore all of that it's probably not allowed now , Rolling Eyes

ps try calf halters ,rope ones they are really good for goats and go in the washing machine Wink

you might enjoy this thread http://forums.thepoultrykeeper.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4928&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=driving+goats&&start=0
open links there's some nice pics

Tracey Morris · Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 285 Location: South Wales

Cheers