The Poultry Keeper

sasha.p · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 479 Location: gwent

i signed it Very Happy

,and in response to the previous poster i totally agree an 8 week old suckling pig is just beyond and as another poster said a ban on poorley produced poultry meats should be put in place to prevent even lesser qaulity meat from being imported to this country as obviousley our country has strict welfare and guidlines for food that is produced here that some other countries do not as shown on the kill it cook it eat it the other night with the suckling pigs it should also be put in place to give our farmers a chance to improve the qaulity of life our meats have and raise our standard as a country i understand cost will go up but i would prefer to know the welfare is of the highest standard and would be prepared to knock another item from my shopping list to pay for a free range chicken unfortunatley though unless everyone agrees i can never see any of this happening and things will either stay the way they are or the worst thing that could happen is the farmers will be put out of business and this country would start importing from elsewhere.i buy my chickens from our farm shop when i do not have any of my own as i stopped buying chickens and meat from supermarkets when i watched a programm a while back about how they plump up meats by injecting them with water etc these days you just do not know what you are buying

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 7165 Location: isle of lewis

that was well put sasha,i do worry about putting our farmers out of busness and then importing (better welfare is what we need),a lot of chicken in ready meals is raised in thailand and conditions there are much worse than here Crying or Very sad

it's a shame you didn't watch the cow one ,it's relivent to anyone who drinks milk or eats cheese(made with cows milk),and i'd much rather eat rose veal at 6 months than them shot and incinerated Crying or Very sad

it'll be great if it has raised awareness of poultry and if it raises standards of quality of life Very Happy

hollowlegs · Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Hampshire

I read with interest your reactions to Hugh & Jamie's endeavors on behalf of our feathed, furred & hairy fellow creatures. What sensible people you are, as of course are most chook & animal owners!
Though I could never eat an animal I'd cared for, we all have to face the fact that most chooks & other farm animals end up in the pot. It's amazing to hear that an awful lot of people have'nt a clue where meat comes from!! especially in an age of instant communication & technology. One wonders what planet they hail from & what sort of an education they, & thus their children were given!! If these explicit programmes have'nt done the trick, I can't think what will!
If only people were prepared to demand good animal welfare for All food animals & make the Government enforce ALL the Laws put in place to protect them.
British Farmers are forced to accept lower & lower prices for their produce be it meat, eggs, milk or veg. while we allow cheap imports from countries where animal welfare is largely ignored. Personally, even though on a very limited income, I would rather buy British free range & have a bit less, but of better quality. At least I can consume it with a clear conscience. Let's put our money where our mouth is!!!

NannyP · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject:

I am unable to sign up, as I don't have a UK address. Am currently in the process of attempting to add the sign up banner to my hensite Very Happy

Parrot · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Norwich

Just a thought !!!!!!!!

It is often said that a lot of kids today don't know where milk, meat and eggs come from. They think it comes from the supermarket and are not aware of the intense work that goes in to rear these animals. And that they live a life (be it ever so humble) hopefully in green fields ( I'm dreaming now).
So with my girls, I get my grandchildren involved in a big way, they sometimes feed the girls and collect the eggs.
I also have various other animals and birds in my garden, they in turn help with those.
The point I am trying to make, is as a result of this my grandchildren are fully aware of how an animal lives and are aware that at some stage they end up in the pot.
It gives them an insight into our animal kingdom and what's on our plate.

Does any of that make sense????????????

debcat · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject:

perfectly

my girls all help out with all the animals
the youngest is a bit squeamish but eldest just mucks in and has had a go at most things

hollowlegs · Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Hampshire

Your words make perfect sense Parrot.
What better way to teach children to care for animals than by example - after all, that is the way they learn especially when young!!

jesssands · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 15

I too watched the prog about suckling pig, didn't like it.......but what about the lil ones in spain?? what were they, 3 weeks old? when they showed masses of them being cooked, then served, they just chopped them into quaters with a plate and one lil piglet fed 4 people, this is just not right..... There was a lady on the prog, she said if the pig was older and fed more people, less lives need to be taken. IMHO this is fairer than eating babies.
I don't think I could be a veggie, altho like the idea of it, but I try to justify my eating meat like it would become almost extinct if we didn't eat it cos farmers wouldn't need to produce it. We all like to see lambs in the spring time in fields, but what if we were all veggie and had to visit the zoo to see lambs! My own thoughts xx
Also, someone mentioned respect, Here in our village at carnival time, theres a group of guys that do the caveman bit.... running along in sacks, brown faces with chains on...... dragging behind the float a whole load of bones and usually a pigs head. I find the whole thing disgusting, I feel this poor souls life was taken for us to eat him and then as a final farewell they just basically take the piss out of him. Really upsets me to see and I don't often watch the carnival but if I do and if I see it coming I have to walk away. Disturbs me that the lack of respect for this creature.
San x

Bhindi · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject:

mmmmm... I think lambs can go on to produce wool... least thats what I was led to believe!!.... (so they dont haveto be eaten)

You dont need to justify eating meat, we were never meant to be herbivores.. but what we all need to do(IMO) is feel responsible enough to prevent bad practice, and if that means paying more money, then so be it.

debcat · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject:

we pay £1.10 to get each sheep sheared (double for rams)
40p is the standard price for each fleece

so it literally costs a fortune to get them all sheared

Woodburner · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject:

debcat · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject:

yep, it's all meant to go through the wool marketing board
and your not allowed to throw it away - minds gone blank now but there's some waste disposal act that covers wool Twisted Evil

Sandra Hilton · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject:

Can't you stick it on the compost heap if you want? Or use it to insulate the walls? LoL

S

crazywelshchuck · Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 95

Hi all

I think this is a wonderful site, I have also added my name to the campaign as feel strongly regarding the battery issue. I saved 20 hens from a farm 18 months ago they could hardly walk, their crests where white and they where bald. It was a year last august and we had to put the under a heat lamp and really pamper them we last 6 they where jsut to run down but the other 14 are still running around our 11 acres eating grass, sunbathing and scratching for worms.
good work everyone hope the public and supermarket take note!
Smile

Parrot · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Norwich

Pleased you are doing your bit welshchuck, I know you will get a lot of enjoyment out of them.
I know we do from our rescue girls