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hoosier
Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 437 Location: south central Indiana
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| We have a heat pump and they are very efficient. Most new houses being built use them - at least in our part of the country. I am having a bit of brain lock at the moment, so I can't think of the specific name for the ones that require buried cables. |
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Tarka
Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 323
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| Henwife wrote: | | How did you manage to get them looking unposed? I have just laughed at myself for my first reaction 'OMG, an open fire, child, dog and no fireguard' then realised that you would have removed it to take the photo and were standing there anyway. Does one ever lose parent/grandparent reactions? |
this is the first year the fire guard has come off , we only light it if one of us can stay in the room , " IF HENWIFE " we have to leave it for 5 minutes the guard goes back on  |
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stephen Site Admin
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 5071 Location: Billinge, Skåne, Sweden.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| hoosier wrote: | | so I can't think of the specific name for the ones that require buried cables. | Ground source. |
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poultry poofs
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 1807 Location: Wensleydale,North Yorkshire.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| £3000 is a lot to fork out but interesting to see you can get a £1500 grant so helps ease the cost a bit. I sent for the brochure anyway,price compares better against the cost of solar water heating systems which are ludicrous. |
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CP Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 15436 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm, love to have one but as you say Rich, it is a lot of money & you don't get the grant until afterwards so you have to have a spare £3000 in the first place.
I have always fancied either solar or wind power (or both!) but the cost has been prohibitive. Perhaps this may be the way to go as it is a little cheaper - have to start saving my pennies!  |
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stephen Site Admin
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 5071 Location: Billinge, Skåne, Sweden.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| poultry poofs wrote: | | £3000 is a lot to fork out but interesting to see you can get a £1500 grant so helps ease the cost a bit. |
And with a grant of that much it's going to pay for itself within a couple of years with the energy savings.
| Quote: | | I sent for the brochure anyway,price compares better against the cost of solar water heating systems which are ludicrous. |
The prices of them in the UK seem quite ridiculous. We've seen the tubes to buy at our local farmers store, and they are a lot cheaper here than in the UK!
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I have always fancied either solar or wind power (or both!) but the cost has been prohibitive. Perhaps this may be the way to go as it is a little cheaper - have to start saving my pennies!  |
We're seriously thinking about the wind power. With our energy usage, we'd need a 3 - 5 KW wind turbine, to make enough to sell back to the grid at peak times, and buy back to be effectively off the grid. One of our neighbours is going to try and get our little group of houses to form a handelsbolag so we can club together to buy a bigger more efficient turbine between us. I hope that comes off. |
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NannyP
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 11309 Location: 86310 Nr St Savin
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I'll need to investigate the grant angle, as I beleive we may get one.
We will also get a tax deduction for fititing energy efficient heating. Would have done for a wood burner. |
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bronskibeat
Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 1615 Location: Clawddnewydd
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I'd love to do something like that but my house is built on a rock I'd have to have the "suitcase" on the wall Worth investigating though I think especially with the cost of oil soaring out of control I would have liked a solid fuel rayburn but they arent the easiest things to keep in if you are out all day on the farm...... I do have two multifuel stoves so I think they will be providing the heat with radiators only as a last resort if get a cool evening once weather warms up. Do the (hotwater) stoves come with back boilers, or can you add one to an existing stove? |
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CP Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 15436 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Depends on the make I think. Our one didn't have the option to add afterwards.  |
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Henwife
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3224 Location: Monmouthshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry Tarka - that wasn't intended as critcism, just that one never loses the protective instinct, hence adding the fact that I realised that you were present & my worry would be unfounded. |
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kated
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: norfolk
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Bronskibeat, I have a solid fuel Rayburn, and it's easypeasy to keep in for 12-14 hours at a time. The key is the right fuel, after much experimentation we have found the right one and it's now a doddle to care for. Ours hasn't gone out now for more than 3 months - and then I let it out for the chimney sweep! I think the old ones are better than the new ones tbh. |
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poultry poofs
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 1807 Location: Wensleydale,North Yorkshire.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| stephen wrote: | | The prices of them in the UK seem quite ridiculous. We've seen the tubes to buy at our local farmers store, and they are a lot cheaper here than in the UK! |
Like most things in the UK-rip-off Britain! everyone just loves to rip off the British and dont we just let them!
I was quoted £9575 by a very well known national solar water heating company for a solar water heating system on my 3 bed house before I sold up. The system = one 8x4 roof heat collector, one new water tank with heat exchanger coil,one electric pump and 15 feet of pipe and two days work. Naturally I told them where they might insert the system. My vet has since had an identical installation last year and cost her £6500.
I could buy the components from the US for around £1000including shipping.
At a time when the government wants us all to be 'green' its about time they stopped these eco-pirates ripping everyone off.There was an excuse years ago when the technology was new and custom made systems had to be individually designed and custom made but now the stuff is mass produced and available off the shelf.Anything with a green tag has ALWAYS had a massive price tag to go with it and despite the stuff being readily available cheap(abroad) we pay more than ever in the UK.Much of the blame lies with government agencies being prepared to payinflated top prices for systems in flagship developments instead of doing their home work first and putting the foot down and squishing these eco pirates.As much as I dislike supermarkets it will be people like them who finally give the majority, affordable systems and kill off the robbers in the eco-environment industry. |
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stephen Site Admin
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 5071 Location: Billinge, Skåne, Sweden.
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| They are also available closer to home cheap enough. A lot of these sorts of systems are from Scandinavia originally. At the prices being quoted, it would be cheaper to drive over on the ferry to Esjberg in Denmark or Goteborg in Sweden and bring them back yourself by quite some margin! |
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Clucky
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 2182 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| stephen wrote: | | They are also available closer to home cheap enough. A lot of these sorts of systems are from Scandinavia originally. At the prices being quoted, it would be cheaper to drive over on the ferry to Esjberg in Denmark or Goteborg in Sweden and bring them back yourself by quite some margin! |
Want some visitors Steph  |
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stephen Site Admin
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 5071 Location: Billinge, Skåne, Sweden.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| More than happy to point people in the right direction! There is a major dealer 20kms from our house, and IVT's regional hub is not that far away either. |
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