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jaydee67
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Location: Shetland Islands

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need to shine up your halo a bit first!
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Itsybitsy



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Location: Leicestershire

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila The Hen wrote:


Infected meat fed to pigs. Does that make me heavenly?!

Attila


Not really! Why would it?

"Infected meat fed to pigs"
We all know where the outbreak started and the man in Northumberland who didn't boil his swill shouldn't have been feeding meat products to his pigs anyway but the question which seems to have been forgotten is how did the infected meat get into the country, he didn't exactly culture the virus on his farm did he? - as I said before we are not biosecure and it should be easy being an island. This time it's different though, there's a cry up now that the restrictions were lifted too early, but that takes the media away from the most important question of all and that's the lack of or lapse of biosecurity at the laboratory.

Itsybitsy
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Welsh Duck



Joined: 18 Jul 2007
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Location: Herefordshire/Welsh Border

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This foot and mouth is a real blow to farmers. Many scottish farmers want to sell breeding ewes now but they can't move them..Although I agree with the ban- It could put many farmers out of business. Sad Its also stopping the lamb sales. I feel so sorry for them....I'm so glad we only have 11 ewes now. Last time was horrendous we had a lot more ewes in different areas of the village, and we were in a restricted zone....I truly hope it doesn't spread like that this time....I sympathize to everyone down in Surrey
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debcat
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are now culling sheep, which is the worst news possible
http://www.warmwell.com/
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milkmaid



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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poultry poofs



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Location: Wensleydale,North Yorkshire.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad
I lived in the middle of a restricted area last time it came and it was a nightmare for my farming friends and the villagers as no-one could even go into the countryside they closed paths roads tracks.It was like virtual house arrest. I sympathise with anyone who is affected by it.

What I find bizarre is the claims that the last escape of the virus was from a broken drain. What the hell were they up to flushing a virus down a drain in the first place. Evil or Very Mad

The whole management of this problem has been chronic from the start of the 2001 outbreak and Itzy is quite right we should have been addressing biosecurity long ago.Ironically I wrote to the agriculture minister about this in 2001 and the fact that importing more food from outside the UK we were leaving ourselves wide open to importing diseases and terrorist tampering with the food supply, I had a terse reply from the department that it would cost too much and impossible to enforce and that I was being "unrealistic" and should stop listening to reports from an uninformed panic led media they had the matter under control.Not long after that they slaughtered over 4 million animals Unbelievable.

Rich
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milkmaid



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

last weeks report from the eu say that it was nearer 10 million as lots of livestock where not counted
anything that was still suckling fom it's mother was not classed as an animal slaughtered
noticed the same thing is happening this time ,it says something like 30 cows oh and plus followers Crying or Very sad
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milkmaid



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you go to warmwell this morning it makes depersing reading for hill farmers ,the feed costs are already starting to bite on the isle ,together with new transport rules ,and the foot and mouth
i've had a conversation with about 3 people who are getting out
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debcat
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

been speaking to our local vet today
he is absolutley terrified of whats coming, both from an animal welfare point of view and from FMD Twisted Evil
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poultry poofs



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Location: Wensleydale,North Yorkshire.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet pigs are worried what might be instore for them.All turkeys have to look forward to is Christmas Confused
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debcat
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the top price today was 60p a kilo, lowest was 26p Twisted Evil
what a nightmare
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Welsh Duck



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Location: Herefordshire/Welsh Border

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sorry Debs thats awful Sad

I know someone near you that keeps Heb sheep, but they are worth nothing commercially. Only for incomers who want breeds that belong to the area. They are feeding them for no return at all
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CP
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sorry Debs. Sad

What sort of price should you have expected, if everything was normal?
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debcat
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

last year we were getting a top price of 85p a kilo Evil or Very Mad
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milkmaid



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Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lisa just phoned she has her fitness and medical tomorrow
she said she nearly brought a sheep dog home ,
she was talking to a farmer, his parents had been though the 60's foot and mouth
had a section d notice served in 2001
and now this he said he cannot take any more and was looking for a home for his dog she said if she hadn't been staying in a b and b she would have had it and brought it home
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