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Attila The Hen
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Am reliably informed the movement restriction is likely to be UK-wide for at least a fortnight, and more likely a month (always assuming no more new cases come to light, in which case Day 0 moves forward and the restriction moves further on too). In the meantime procedures will be set in place for licences to move stock to an abattoir for slaughter.
The only circumstances in which one can move a restricted animal across a public road are when it is unavoidably necessary in order to receive veterinary attention. Otherwise you can move restricted stock on your own holding as long as it does not move on public roads, and it is recommended that points of nose-to-nose contact with neighbouring stock be avoided.
No talk yet (from DEFRA / SEERAD) of compensation schemes for loss of earnings incurred from lost markets etc, but it's early days yet, and hopefully we'll not get that far.
Next 48 hours are crucial to finding out how likely this is to spread.
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debcat
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Location: Isle of Lewis
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up here it is going to get really critical next week
the sheep on the common grazing - which is split into 4 are due to be moved to a new section next week - they are on the smallest part at the moment
we all have small feilds and move sheep regularily to new grazing, giving the used grazing a few weeks rest
Next week is when the sales should start, the buyers come from the mainland and are our main source of sellers
If it comes to the worst I will be left with 26 sheep to feed over the winter - something I can't afford to do
I know of loads of other crofters that will be left with 100's of lambs that they can't sell but can't afford to feed |
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milkmaid
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| does anyone know what the other dangerous contacts where ,i believe it was a smallholding |
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debcat
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| there was a smallholding with pet sheep, goats and pigs belonging to 2 small children and thier parents |
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milkmaid
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| thank you, |
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debcat
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| there is another cull being carried out tonight of a suspected herd of cattle inside the exclusion zone |
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milkmaid
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2nd farm now comfirmed,
and they just said on the news there is a 3rd suspented incedent |
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CP
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This article tells about expected hikes in prices of food due to the recent weather & now the F&M crisis. 
http://tinyurl.com/yp7e9e
Anyone that grows their own would be wise to increase their planting!
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Attila The Hen
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Location: Shetland
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My sources now tell me sheep with lesions being tested in Devon. Not in the news yet.
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sasha.p
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oh how awful as if everyone has not been through enough already and just after all the floods now this is happening i feel sorry for anyone who is affected if it has managed to be transmitted from the gov research lab it just goes to show they are messing with viruses they just do not have any control over and in that case it should be sited elswhere where it can not affect anyones animals like the middle of the desert! why stick a lab in the middle of an agricultural area when there is obviousley a risk of spreading even with all the biosecurity precautions  |
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Itsybitsy
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| Attila The Hen wrote: | My sources now tell me sheep with lesions being tested in Devon. Not in the news yet.
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Whoa - that's quite a thing to be saying.
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Attila The Hen
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| Itsybitsy wrote: | | Attila The Hen wrote: | My sources now tell me sheep with lesions being tested in Devon. Not in the news yet.
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Whoa - that's quite a thing to be saying.
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Am certainly not scaremongering, just relaying something I've been told by a reliable source in DEFRA. With any luck it'll turn out to be ecthyma (orf to you and I) instead. That's why they're testing.
Bear in mind the first FMD case was identified by the farmer on Thursday, and he was told to contact DEFRA. There's an average 6-14 day incubation for the disease before it manifests itself - so there could have been plenty of time for the infected animals to become infectious in their own right, and the virus to spread further out into the wider environs of the countryside. An awful lot of animals are on the move throughout the country on any given day. I hope I'm wrong, but I'd suggest we're by no means out of the woods just yet.
Remember 2001? One or two fresh cases on the first few days. Then escalating numbers. It shouldn't be so bad this time as they've imposed movement restrictions so promptly to reduce the odds of disease transfer, but we'll see... I know for a fact that a few farmers across the country have already been breaking the restrictions.
Don't believe for a minute though that this new Brown government has abandoned the spin and veneering of the truth of the Blair government - why else transport all slaughtered FMD suspect carcases to Frome in Somerset for disposal, over 100 miles from Surrey, with the associated greater risk of spreading the disease en-route, instead of burning on-site? Simple. The government doesn't want the evocative images of funeral pyres in the countryside. Terribly bad PR on top of either their own facility or a government-contracted facility accidentally releasing the virus in the first place.
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debcat
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I can't believe that the government laboratory they are investigating as a possible cause is the same place testing to see if it was themselves or the private company that caused it  |
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CP
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| Quote: | | a few farmers across the country have already been breaking the restrictions |
Why on Earth would anyone do that? After the last F&M outbreak you'd think they'd be more sensible!
Seeing the latest farmer affected on the news tonight in tears at losing his herd, anyone who flouts the restrictions should be punished severely for being so stupid!
It's not just farmers being affected either - how many farms these days have rented outbuildings to other trades?
My neighbour is an electrician & cannot get any equipment from his storage facility because it's on a farm within the restriction zone.
My farming friends have a successful micro brewery renting some buildings on their farm. They're not in the restricted zone yet but if that widens then nothing will be able to move on or off the farm. It will stop the brewery's business trade too, with resultant financial losses. |
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stephen
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Next week is when the sales should start, the buyers come from the mainland and are our main source of sellers
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Looks like things are starting to get better in Scotland for you. |
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