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Knobby
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 6707 Location: North Warwickshire
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: Roasting Joints of Meat |
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Im always confused as to how Beef should be cooked......
Is roasting....."Cooking in the oven uncovered".....I always put it in an enamel Baking thingy covered with a lid, but dont think thats classed as roasting. When i cook Pork i alway leave uncovered.....
Any of you experts care to enlighten me please ??? |
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NannyP
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 11343 Location: 86310 Nr St Savin
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I think both would be classed as roasting, although if covered you end up also steaming to a degree.
I prefer my meat cooked uncovered, so that the juices get well cooked ontop and all the flavour gathers in the crustier bits.
Sometimes, I use one of those bricks (terracota roasting thingy) and the meat does really nicely, tender etc. No crusty tasty bits though. |
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Knobby
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 6707 Location: North Warwickshire
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Thats what I thought too....just didnt wat to try roasting Beef uncovered and see it shrink to the size of a pea !! |
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NannyP
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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I think it will always shrink, but if you cook it gently it will shrink less. Or, if you marinade first, then it should hold it's size better.
Cor, listen to me, you'd think I know what I'm talking about wouldn't you  |
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Knobby
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| So, will slow cooking always make it more tender too ??? |
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NannyP
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Beef should always be cooked more slowly. High temps and fast cooking make it shrink in horror.  |
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Knobby
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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1 last question please.................
Can you over "slow cook" it ? |
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NannyP
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| I think you can, eventually. What are you thinking specifically? |
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Knobby
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: |
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if it says for instance
2 hrs at 200 deg.........could it be cooked at say 4 hrs at 170 ????? |
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NannyP
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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That would be far better. 4 hours on a low temp, yummy. In fact, you could loosley cover it with some foil so that it bastes in it's own juices too.
Last edited by NannyP on Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:40 am; edited 1 time in total |
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debcat Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 8626 Location: Isle of Lewis
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| I do mine at 150 for about 4-5 hours |
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NannyP
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Oh, and it would depend on the size too. So, if a really small joint for one, then maybe 4 hours is too long, but if it's bigger then that would be okay.
Oh good, Suz is here, another opinion so I don;t feel completely responsible when he ruins his roast beef ! |
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debcat Moderator
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| I cover it with tin foil for the first half of cooking time as well, then take the tin foil off and let it crisp up |
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rubychik
Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 1380 Location: MID WALES/SHROPS BORDER
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: |
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mmmmm roast beeeeef  |
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mojo
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 10531 Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| me i have a differant method..use aenamel or stainless dish .....inch of water in the bottom.pepper but no salt.........cook the beef 150 degrress for 2 hours ......turn over .....cook for further two hours..........lift from dish onto plate ..........allow to cool for 10/15 mins.........slice thinly......whilst cooling make gravy in the dish on top of stove..........still no salt..........serve in the gravy ........let folks add their own salt........why?salt makes beef tough.........best of luck.......p.s. you can put seasonings in the water i.e. try cranberry juice |
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