The Poultry Keeper

Paulfrompompey · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 162 Location: Back in Pompey

Here Here, TLWR

There are smallholders in that area that are going to suffer, and eventually we may all suffer, because of mans want of cheap food, with minimal thought of animal welfare, and intense farming methods.

They say that the worse places to get a cold are a trains, aeroplanes and (would you believe it) a hospital!

Why, because it involves being cooped up ('scuse the pun!) with other people, breathing in what they have breathed out and it's all in a warm, humid bug breeding atmosphere.

DEFRA take note!

And still they waffle on saying that it's a totally accepatable way to produce meat for the table.
If the media was to concentrate more on the farming methods rather then 'are humans at risk?'
the perhaps something might, just might get done....won't hold my breath though.

thelongwayround · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 497 Location: Camborne, Cornwall

Make sure you hold your breath in Trains, Planes and Hospitals though! Laughing

Paulfrompompey · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 162 Location: Back in Pompey

Oh, You merry jester, you laughing3

CP · Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject:

The old adage springs to mind...."coughs & sneezes spread diseases, catch them in your handkerchief!" Wink

I believe there's quite a risk using a public telephone too. And what about computer keyboards?

Nowhere's safe really, is it? We'll all have to have gallons of that alcohol based disinfectant hand wash & use it constantly wherever we go. Wink

All gowned up with face masks & wellie boots.....! Shocked

We're all going to die!!!!!!!! Shocked

....I'll get my coat! Rolling Eyes

thelongwayround · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 497 Location: Camborne, Cornwall

Surely we can think of a better use for the alcohol.

At least we wont actually care then. Laughing

CP · Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject:

You have a point there! Laughing

debcat · Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject:

Henwife · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Monmouthshire

Didn't Bernard Mattews get his gong from this government? And if the disease follows truck routes, frozen turkeys from his Hungarian 'farms' are trucked to the processing factory on the Holton site. Nuff said?

Gilly C · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 2199 Location: South Cumbria

Got it in ! Henwife ! Have you seen this ? and our goverment are compensating him!!!!!!!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6344335.stm

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6748 Location: isle of lewis

the thing i don't understand isn't access on and off an infected premises,stopped for 28 days ,in cases of a notifiable desiese suspected or comfirmed ,
compensation is not payed on infected animals only those culled to stop an outbreak ,so i supose he will get compensation ,although i know it's not fair

Phil@Birchams · Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Beccles

Compensation is the market value of the birds.

Yes, the movement restrictions are madness, trucks and minibuses in and out of the BM plant potentially spreading the disease. We have virtually sealed our place off. We had a feed delivery this week and unloaded the lorry in the lane, rather than let him in - he was going to BM after me as well Rolling Eyes

The other thing coming to light is that BM turkey sold in the UK could well be from Hungarian birds - no mention of that on the BM website Shocked

Phil

debcat · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:27 am Post subject:

Deputy Chief Vet Fred Landeg said imported "poultry product" was a possible route of infection.

Meanwhile, tests on culled turkeys from three sheds on the Suffolk farm, near the shed in which the virus was first found, also showed strains of H5N1.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6344335.stm

milkmaid · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 6748 Location: isle of lewis

i must admit i have plans if it ever gets close ,no cars on or off all delievies to the gate no further
i brought seard approved disinfectant last year
nonie will not be allowed back on the place that way she can keep a eye on the sheep ,during foot and mouth livestock starved in the feilds because of movement resctictions and the restriction of the movement of people

stephen · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject:

There is a lot more at the Observer website where the story was broken.

Paulfrompompey · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 162 Location: Back in Pompey

What do you think about the plant being re-opened again already?

I believe it was re-opened on the 12th February.

In a way I'm glad 'cos hopefully it will show to the world that this wasn't the life threatening situation to mankind that the media would have liked us all to believe.
Now the media are up in arms 'cos the plant has opened a week after the outbreak was detected.

So? And? As long as the place was scrubbed and disinfected properly and passed the relevent microbiology tests and all that which I don't even pretend to understand, whats the problem?

However, my thoughts on intense and non free range farming do not change though, I'd rather see 160 thousand turkeys having freedom to roam in fields rather then in farm factory buildings.

Regards...