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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Sulmtalers Reply with quote

Thread for Sulmtalers.

Is that how it's spelt? Confused I haven't checked! Rolling Eyes
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Clucky



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care of Feathersite


Info at Feathersite here
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mulberry



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: sulmtalers Reply with quote

I breed these darlings. have 3 hens with 1 cockerel, have loads of chicks now. I am amazed they arent more popular, as well as being pretty and unusual, they are very easy going and not bad layers either.

We need to make more effort to keep some of these unusual breeds going !!!
Joy
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Welsh Duck



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend who breeds them. He loves them but found it hard to bring in new blood. I don't know why they aren't more popular either. They are really quiet and easy to handle. In my mind they are the perfect childrens breed
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Drachenreiter



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a picture of them.



Don`t think they are Altsteirers!

The Sulmtaler are the heyvier type of the styrian chickens.

Regards from Bavaria

DR
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mulberry



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: sulmtalers Reply with quote

They are definately Sulmtalers although not show quality.

Joy
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Drachenreiter



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: sulmtalers Reply with quote

mulberry wrote:
They are definately Sulmtalers although not show quality.

Joy


Can you tell me why the are not show quality? After this I tell you wich animals they are and have a look to the last results at show from this person in Germany.

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DR
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PaulF



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they are actually good examples.
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Henwife



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that it's the usual thing, the UK works to a different Standard from the rest of the EU. Bearing in mind that the Sulmtaler was bred as a utility bird and has been around for well over 100 years, it is hardly surprising that different standards should be acceptable.
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Clucky



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henwife, did I see some at Hereford. We actually thought at the time they were crosses, but now thinking on..... They were caged as a trio on the right as you walked in on the top row. If they were.....bummer... they are pretty
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mulberry



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: sulmtalers Reply with quote

Been a bit delayed in responding to this post. I breed Sulmtalers and the UK version is slightly different to the previously posted pics. The bird should be very square , almost like a box on legs, with a fair bit of substance to it even in the bantams. The headgear should be obvious but not in your face, and the colour should be a rich biscuit, with very little dark markings anywhere.

The birds are very docile but egg laying numbers are not brilliant although they dont seem to go broody. I have struggled this year with breeding as the chicks seem to be quite delicate . Once they have reached 6 weeks they normally make it through, its getting them to that age that is my prob this year. May have something to do with the weather as I have a couple of other breeds that have been the same.

Joy
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Henwife



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I could find the catalogue I could check, but there is somebody who breeds banty ones, so quite possible. He certainly had some eggs in - and finds them good layers.
Mulberry - how does the photo in Poultry Standards look to you - I know that standard and photo don't always co-incide as they should!
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Welsh Duck



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine who you met saturday henwife used to breed them so it is quite possible there were some in Hereford at past sales.

Is the lack of vigour up to 6 weeks due to the small gene pool I wonder. I know Silver Grey Dorkings have a similar problem
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mulberry



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: sulmtalers Reply with quote

Henwife, the photo in PS is a bit misleading, but as you say pics dont always portray the live bird very well. The small gene pool may well be the reason for delicate chicks, although I dont have the same problem with Silver Dorkings, they are one of my more vigorous breeds.

The bantam Vorwerks are probably the worst, closely followed by Buff Mottled Barbu Duccles. Last hatch all had very forward facing legs and couldnt stand at all. Splayed leg I can deal with, that isnt possible to do anything about , especially on such a tiny chick.

Most prolific chicks this year for me have been the Houdans, and there is hardly a large gene pool there either.
Joy
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