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Hen-Gen



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
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Location: Derbyshire and Shetland

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: The Scottish Islands Reply with quote

I've noticed that there are a few folk here from the Outer Hebrides and Shetland. In three years I move permanantly to my house on Fetlar (Shetland). Are there any serious threats to my hens eg gulls, bonxies, otters etc.? Any advice?
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milkmaid



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pests we have are
mink ,gulls ,crows, sea eagles and golden eagles
a friend had some ducklings taken by seals
no foxes although there are rumours of some
and yep otters although they seen to prefer eggs
saying that i have nime freeranging after they are big enough not to be taken by gulls and haven't lost one to a pest
(touch wood )
that's on the isle of lewis Very Happy
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mojo



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggest problem is probably tourists........best of luck with your move
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Hen-Gen



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
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Location: Derbyshire and Shetland

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mojo, I must send you my recipe for Daytripper en Croute!
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mojo



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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

merci madame
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Hen-Gen



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
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Location: Derbyshire and Shetland

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, milkmaid. Seems like predators are not so much of a problem then in the remote corners. Cant wait to enjoy a fox-free environment.
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Loudmouth Schnook



Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 1600
Location: Back, Isle of Lewis

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the Border Collie. I thought only my dog was a poultry killer, but apparently it can be a problem with so many of them around for the sheep. Sad
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milkmaid



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep it's the herding instict ,which is a modified hunt
the hunt leader is ment to do the cull of the animals that's why one of the hardest things to teach a collie is the drive away when the dogs insticts are telling it to drive the prey to the leader to kill (shepard ) when there is no strong herd leader or they are not there the dog will herd and finish the job itself
north is training to herd ,he's got the gather and the drive towards but the drive away he's having trouble with Rolling Eyes
he is never allowed out by himself ,he is breed from strong working lines and it wouldn't be fair if anything happened it would be my fault not the dogs ,pax is different layed back with chickens never even notices them Rolling Eyes ,this only really aplies to some collies not all
meg the farm collie at nonies work is either in a kennel or under close control ,she's a great dog one i'd take home in a second
again working breed collie ,so yes the sheep dogs can be a problem,it only happens with some collies and they tend to be the best working dogs


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debcat
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Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Isle of Lewis

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 2 dogs (collie and collie x) only go out on their own first and last thing, I go out with them in the day, or they are tied up.
Neither of them have a clue what to do with a sheep but they've both been seen trying to round up the hens and ducks.
the first thing I taught them both was 'leave it'
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jaydee67
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Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 5005
Location: Shetland Islands

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polecats can decimate a flock too - not had any predator probs here (touch wood) although we still haven't found any sign of our missing duckling! Feel free to visit when next you are up - you will drive past my house on your way to Fetlar! Wink
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Hen-Gen



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 229
Location: Derbyshire and Shetland

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks y'all. Much insight. Seems to me that The Wind-Dog Cafe should be the meeting place for a nascent Shetland Poultry Club.
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jaydee67
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Location: Shetland Islands

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh - Chili hot chocolate!
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mojo



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do what? explain that PLEASE
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George



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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Location: London

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry mojo, they're weird up there Wink
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CP
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't it the Mexicans who first mixed chilli & chocolate? Confused
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