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creamcrackered



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 26
Location: hanslope, milton keynes

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: upset Reply with quote

I have 2 orpintons 2 bantams and 4 meadowsweet rangers, all young girls that have just come into lay and the roam around the garden with the 3 kids and my dozy cocker spainiel, they are so good natured as they put up with being chased round the garden for cuddles and kisses by the kids.

i've also got a young male rabbit who's always been really sweet and tame, i thought he would like to have a run around the garden , but this afternoon i looked out to see the rabbit on top of ginger (one of the meadowsweet)he was laying around his neck with the chicken flat to the floor, i shouted at the rabbit but it didn't move, i had to go and pick it up off of ginger, and there was a lump of bloody feathers by the side of the chicken and another chicken was running around with more feathers in its beak Sad , The rabbit seemed to be in shock as it still wasn't moving so i put it in it's hutch, and ginger ran off, but then the other chickens were chasing ginger and one of them pulled more feather out, so i caught ginger and brought her into the conservatory and put her in a box with an old towel, on closer inspection it looks like the bunny has taken a bit out of ginger towards the rear end, looked sore to me, but i am very squeemish even at the best of times. but i think i was in a bit of shock myself as i never thought the bunny would ever do something like that, and now the kids don't want bunny anymore Sad
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CP
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Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 16285
Location: Hampshire

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a terrible thing to happen! Shocked Poor Ginger. Sad

I don't know much about rabbits I'm afraid. Confused

Chickens are attracted to the colour red, so that's why they were so interested in Ginger. I hope you can keep her isolated as she's probably in shock & should be kept warm & quiet. Can you tell if the wound is very deep? You should try to clean her up & either spray it with some of that purple spray everyone mentions, or some wound powder if you have it.

Make sure she is eating & drinking. Put some ACV in the water & tempt her with some nice treat you know she will eat.

Let us know how you get on.
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Lisa



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 3237
Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear you've had an upsetting experience Sad

Sounds like you've done all the right things though - bringing Ginger in for some TLC.

You say its a young male rabbit. Could it have been a bit "confused" and trying to mount Ginger? IIRC male rabbits can become more aggressive when they reach maturity. Just a thought? At least that might be a reason for behaviour...
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AngieC



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 71
Location: Dorset

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rabbits (male or female) will try to mount just about anything vaguely the right size & texture, no matter how many legs it has or hasn't got - piles of washing will do! So a hen lying on the floor would attract amorous attention... But although we have had one big, vicious bunny who did bite, he never, ever drew blood - his teeth simply weren't sharp enough. And we have been up to 18 rabbits at one stage - never again! You may need to look elsewhere for the culprit; something with sharper teeth.
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fenwoman



Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 933
Location: Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngieC wrote:
Rabbits (male or female) will try to mount just about anything vaguely the right size & texture, no matter how many legs it has or hasn't got - piles of washing will do! So a hen lying on the floor would attract amorous attention... But although we have had one big, vicious bunny who did bite, he never, ever drew blood - his teeth simply weren't sharp enough. And we have been up to 18 rabbits at one stage - never again! You may need to look elsewhere for the culprit; something with sharper teeth.

I have had nasty rabbits in the past and their teeth are way sharp enough. I suspect the rabbit was raping the chicken. When they mate they sort of go dead still when they have finished. I have one rabbit here nowe but he is castrated. Personally I have had too many nasty ones and know of many more nasty ones and wonder why poeople give them to kids as pets.
They do taste nice though and all of mine got eaten. One new zealand buck attacked one of my dogs and actually cost me a lot of money in vet bills to get her stitched up. The wounds were deep.He would let himself out of his hutch and actually chase and attack anything in the garden.
I googled for 'rabbit biting' and came up with plenty of references. Most state that rabbits have very sharp teeth and it seems to be a common thing.
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milkmaid



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
Posts: 7424
Location: isle of lewis

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my aunt used to breed old english rabits she had one who was funny it would be really friendly ,then just turn and attack ,
remember turning around and she had her arm up in the air with the rabit hanging off it ,she got a huge scar there now
mind you the one after that was lovely and used to come in and sit on the back of the sofa watching telly ,it was killed when a local doctor refused to keep his dogs in and they killed 30 rabits in a day Crying or Very sad they dug there way through the wire ripping it off with their paws and teath
suz
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Timbo



Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Cranfield, Beds.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, rabbits do have sharp teeth -IMO you need to get him castrated and he will calm down. Mine (when I was a child) used to attack my hand and draw blood but he was much more chilled once he had his knackers removed... Poor boy.
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summayah



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 4289
Location: luton

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh creamcrackered, I am so sorry for you and your girl. Did you need to take her to the vet? How is she now? Please keep us updated on her progress
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mojo



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 10986
Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rabbits bite and hard......either the snip or the pot is the only answer as once he has raped he will do it again and again etc even a childs hand as they clean or stroke .....take care please
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creamcrackered



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 26
Location: hanslope, milton keynes

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh my god !! i never thought he would rape ginger Shocked but what fen women described was the rabbit to a tee, i just thought the rabbit was in shock at drawing blood, how naive am i Rolling Eyes

On a happier note ginger seems no worse for her ordeal, when all the other ladies took themselves off to bed last night i let her join them, and they all seemed fine with her today, she even produced a lovely egg, bless her

kids forgave bunny today and played with him inside the house, i rang the oh, who's working away from home this week, and told him that his first job sat Mon is to make a secure run for the rabbit as i don't want to go through that again, let alone put one of my ladies through it.
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mojo



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 10986
Location: GLENAY north deux sevre FRANCE

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please watch the kiddies whilst playing with bunny they aint soft cuddly toys they can HURT
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summayah



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 4289
Location: luton

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Mojo ~ If your rabbit has damaged one of your chickens already ~ I don't think I would be trusting him with the children. Maybe you should have him castrated so that he's safe for your children.
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creamcrackered



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 26
Location: hanslope, milton keynes

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the kids don't seem to want to handle the bunny very much, they would rather play with the chooks, but i think your right about getting him "seen" to, then i won't worry about any one getting bitten or mounted.
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summayah



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 4289
Location: luton

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be for the best. You would never forgive yourself if he hurt one of your children, just because he managed to get out one time.
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Fenn



Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 2292
Location: Shrewsbury

PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crikey, I'd never realised that rabbit's can have such a nasty side Shocked

Glad to hear that Ginger's on the mend - off with that lad's knackers! Twisted Evil
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