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Nisi



Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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Location: Yorkshire

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Hen with Standing Problem Reply with quote

One of my hens has had a problem standing for a few days now. I thought she was improving but today she just stayed on the floor when I went into the run. I lifted her to stand her up but she just sunk down again. I moved the food and water in front of her and she ate and drank straight away. She seems perky enough in herself, it just seems to be a leg or foot problem. I can't see anything obvious and she doesn't limp. When she was out in the garden yesterday she was happy to peck at things but didn't do that foot scraping thing.

Has anyone any suggestions as to what this could be ?

Sad
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Nellie



Joined: 02 May 2005
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Location: Outside Newtown - Powys

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same problem with a light Sussex hen she suddenly went off her feet and had the same symptoms as it seems yours does, I was told it was Marek's and after some serious reading up, it panicked me like mad Surprised - but then another gentleman turned up who said it was very possible she just pulled a ligament like we do, sure enough after 3 days of TLC she was back up on her feet and running around, she is still with me a year later and laying eggs everyday - so maybe with what you are doing - placing water and feed in front of her this is her best bet Laughing
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summayah



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope it's just a pulled ligament, nisi. One of my girls had a limp at one time, only for a couple of days. I never knew what caused it but she was soon good as new. Maybe add some apple cider vinegar to the water for a week and maybe use some poultry spice to help her recover from whatever caused it.
Let us know how she gets on.
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CP
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Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Hampshire

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sorry to hear you hen is not well Nisi. Sad

One of our hens was like this a while ago. Never did find out what was wrong with her, but we brought her in to keep her warm & just gave her some TLC. Next day she was back to her old self again. Confused

Hopefully it is just an 'off' day & she will be OK again tomorrow.
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Nisi



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maud seems to be a lot better today. She is walking well but still not scratching. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it is just a pulled ligament as you suggest. I think I will avoid reading up on Mareks until I have to !
My electric fence is due to be delivered tomorrow so I will be able to watch her walking about more easily.
Thanks for your replies.
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Nellie



Joined: 02 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH Nisi Laughing thats brilliant news about Maud Very Happy Very Happy

If she is up and walking around then you can certainly rule out Mareks, as she wouldnt have evn made the effort to stand, let alone walk.
Just a little more time and she will be right as rain I am sure . . . . . if only chickens could talk Very Happy
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Lisa



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So glad to hear Maud is on the mend Razz

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CP
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that Maud continues to improve. Smile
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Nisi



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maud is walking quite well today and has been helping me with the electric fence - that's another story !
Later I went out to the run and she was part way up the ramp and decided to jump down, obviously forgetting her bad leg/legs and landed in a heap on the floor with both her wings out. But she managed to stand up again and later walked up the ramp so I think she will be OK and the cause of the problem will remain a mystery.

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thewinkingtiger



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Location: East Yorkshire, UK

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nisi
When I had my "drunk" chook, it looked like it might be mareks - but after a time in the kitchen to build her strength back up and a couple of weeks wobbling about once she could at least compete with the others, she is now right as rain!
Never found out what it was - but she has become one of the prettiest girls I have.
Good luck with Maud - hope she continues to do good.
Debs
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Fee



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took one of my hens to the vet yesterday because she had this problem. She went to bed fine but could not stand or walk in the morning but layed an egg, ate and drank.

The vet ,who keeps chickens, said it may be Mareks but thought she may have a calcium deficiancy because I have been feeding a lot of sunflower hearts which contain phosphorus that depleates calcium. My hens are still laying so use a lot of calcium. I fed her more oyster shell and replaced the seeds with layers meal and she seems fine today.

Good Luck!
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thewinkingtiger



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fee!

That is something I didn't know. Thank you for the tip.

Debs
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summayah



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hadn't realised that either Fee, thanks for the information
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nigel
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The calcium - phosphorous ratio is something David Bland talks a lot about. Here's a quote from one of his articles "Getting Started with Poultry" which he wrote in Smallholder Magazine

It's quite startling stuff since it flies in the face of conventional wisdom about providing oyster shell

Quote:
Insoluble grit such as hen sized flint grit should be given at the rate of 1oz per bird once a month. Without such grit your birds have no teeth and are unable to make good use of all that is provided and the picked up. Just put the appropriate amount in a pile once a month and they will select what and how much they require. Even if your ground is stony please provide the proper grit.
Oyster shell is soluble and should not be given to birds kept on a complete layers ration. By doing so you will upset the calcium phosphorous ratio and so cause soft shelled eggs, brittle bones and feathers. When buying grit from your suppler demand Flint grit and do not settle for it mixed with oyster shell. It is only ignorance by those packing and supplying such a concoction, which causes many of the problems far too many small poultry


It was one of the first articles I ever read when I thought about keeping poultry. I've never fed oyster shell etc. to my birds, but I know so many people do and they don't have these problems - go figure..
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Nisi



Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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Location: Yorkshire

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always had grit (with shell) freely available and they go through it really quickly, picking out the shell first of all. Perhaps I will ration them now as they have layers available all the time as well.
Maud (the one the thread was originally about) still has a problem. She is quite good first thing in the morning and keeps up with the others unless they run off, but later she sits down and watches them. She puts her wings out quite a lot to keep her balance. I'm just hoping that whatever she has done will heal eventually as she is still perky and doesn't seem ill. However, I think she is the one responsible for the partly soft/very thin shell eggs I have been getting. They are often graduated in bands of colour and very very fragile.
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