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Attila The Hen
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 443 Location: Shetland
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: Croad Langshan egg colour |
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Well, my last pair of broodies are currently raising the last of this year's chicks, and I'm already thinking about next year. This year I've hatched two new breeds for me, Gold-laced Orpingtons (cos I fancy the plumage) and Copper/black Marans - for those wonderful dark mahogany shelled eggs. Complete result all told, as a 50/50 split of cockerels and hens in the Orpingtons, and critically for my small, loyal band of egg customers a 25/75 split of cockerels and hens in the Marans.
So! (eventually getting to the point...) I now have a kaleidoscope of egg colours. Blues from my Aracuanas, greens from my Shetlands, tinteds from a whole assortment of fowl, and whites from my Exchequer leghorns and Old English Game banties. I seem to recall seeing dark brown eggs with a purple, plum coloured bloom on them at shows in the south of England, and wondered what breed laid these. Google isn't much help, nor any of my books, but the search engines do indicate the breed in question might be Croad Langshan.
Does anyone have these? Is there a variation in egg colours depending on the plumage variation of the breed cf the various permutations c.f Maran? If so, which variation gives the purplest egg shell colour? And finally (not asking much, I know ), has anyone any photos of these eggs?
Many thanks,
ATH
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nigel Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 2500 Location: Skåne, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I recall reading somewhere (I thought it was in Practical Poultry but can't find it now) that Croad Langshans lay a plum blushed egg, but I've never seen a picture.
Sorry not much help I know. |
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jaydee67 Moderator
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 5152 Location: Shetland Islands
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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No help with your query - but if you have some maran laying eggs next year will you keep me in mind? I tried hatching marans from shipped eggs this year, hatched 7 from 16 eggs and none survived. Other hatches from my Shetlands were successful - both here and the eggs I shipped out the 'sooth mooth!'
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NannyP
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 11631 Location: 86310 Nr St Savin
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| jaydee67 wrote: | 'sooth mooth!'
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What on Earth does that mean Jaydee??  |
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jaydee67 Moderator
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 5152 Location: Shetland Islands
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nearly everything that comes in or goes out of Shetland by sea comes via the 'sooth mooth' of Lerwick harbour.
It is used as a term for non-Shetlanders too - 'soothmoothers' said by some to be an affectionate term, but I have heard it used in a more derogatory fashion too.
On a lighter note the flumes at teh leisure centre are called north mooth and sooth mooth (not sure if they spell it like that though!) |
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NannyP
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila The Hen
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 443 Location: Shetland
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| jaydee67 wrote: | No help with your query - but if you have some maran laying eggs next year will you keep me in mind? I tried hatching marans from shipped eggs this year, hatched 7 from 16 eggs and none survived. Other hatches from my Shetlands were successful - both here and the eggs I shipped out the 'sooth mooth!'
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Of course. They've not started laying yet, so no idea how good an egg colour they'll produce, but the eggs they came from were marvellous dark, dark brown shells, so there's promise there. Next spring I'll be happy to let you have a dozen or two. The hatch rate was 75% from the shipped Maran eggs, including one caddy chick that I found half out of the egg and stone cold on the run floor; it's eyes were glazed over, so I took it outside to chuck out for the corbies to clear, and noticed in daylight a small movement. A few seconds later, and another movement - alive and breathing, but only just. Rushed it inside and up a jumper, and half an hour later a faint peeping; three hours later, a fluffy, weak and besotted Maran girly chick. She's hopeless, and has no idea she's a hen - terrified of the others, and never happier than when she's in the house and in front of the TV... at least caddy lambs can't fly over fences and in through open windows, lol.
Haven't lost any chicks post-hatching for a few years now (touches wood!). Any ideas what did for your Marans?
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jaydee67 Moderator
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 5152 Location: Shetland Islands
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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No idea - they did get pasty butts but have had chicks with that before without mortality. Have lost a couple of chicks from a bigger hatch a few years ago but nothing like this.
The 2 Shetland only hatches were hatched one batch under a broody and one in an incubator, fed the same way as the marans with the same food, raised the same way ............. Who knows? There was a Shetland chick in the maran hatch, a real tufty, our first home bred baby and it died too.
I sent 3 lots of Shetland eggs south in the post, one got used as postie football, the other 2 had excellent hatch rates. Photos in NannyP's and George's galleries |
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CP Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 16285 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Can you please explain what a 'caddy chick' is, ATH?  |
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Attila The Hen
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 443 Location: Shetland
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| chicken_palace wrote: | Can you please explain what a 'caddy chick' is, ATH?  |
Ah, that'd be a Shetland expression I've bastardised - a bottle-reared lamb is known as a caddy lamb, so a chick reared away from it's mum and hopelessly imprinted on humans must be a caddy chick!
Da peerie mootie caddy chick... sounds like a kid's book waiting to be written to me. Lol.
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debcat Moderator
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 8856 Location: Isle of Lewis
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| caddy is used here as well for lambs |
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Boxerchic
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 26 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Hi ATH,
I have put a pic of croad langshan egg colour in the breed thread under croad langshan. Egg colour does vary a lot though with the croads, from a light beige pink to a mid brown depending on hen and time of year.
Cheers,
Clare. |
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nigel Moderator
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| we use the word 'cade' pronounced caddy in my smallholder course to refer to orphaned or sick lambs. |
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Attila The Hen
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 443 Location: Shetland
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Boxerchic wrote: | Hi ATH,
I have put a pic of croad langshan egg colour in the breed thread under croad langshan. Egg colour does vary a lot though with the croads, from a light beige pink to a mid brown depending on hen and time of year.
Cheers,
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Hi Clare,
Just in case you think I was being terribly rude, many thanks for both the picture and the breed details. I think the eggs I saw must have been the mid-brown end of the spectrum, and the bloom was startlingly purplish.
My head's ruling my heart on this, and I'll be strong this year and not go for them. Time I think to concentrate on the breeds I've got.
Many thanks again,
Attila
PS - Jaydee67 - the caddy chick started laying just before Christmas (though her sisters haven't joined in yet). Wonderful dark mahogany eggs! The first couple were had matt shells, but all subsequent ones have had a lovely glossy finish. Will set the Marans up in a breeding pen in the Spring and sort you out with some hatching eggs.
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jaydee67 Moderator
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 5152 Location: Shetland Islands
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Brilliant, thanks! That's my chick addiction sorted for this year then!  |
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