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poule



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Who is the daddy? Reply with quote

How long would it take to be sure a cock with a hen is 100% definately the father of the eggs after taking away any other cocks that may have got jiggy with the hen?

Apologies if this has been asked before, had a search but difficult question to search for.

Thanks in advance.
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Sylvia
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say it is normally about 3 weeks.
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poule



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is 'they'? Thanks for replying Sylvia.
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Bradders



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree with Sylvia Smile
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Henwife



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say = it is said. It is generally accepted that experienced poultry breeders have found that a three week period should elapse before setting eggs using a new cockerel.
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poule



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh, thats who. THANKS ALL for your help.
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The Ladies



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG I would never have thought about that, (well that it would take so long). I am so glad there are so many knowledgeable people here
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Pekinout



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least a month. Hens store fertilised eggs for some time before laying them.
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Hen-Gen



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Location: Derbyshire and Shetland

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its time for one of those 'well, fancy that' moments. If the cockerel is a pure breeding rose comb breed, eg Wyandotte or Sebright, then a week is ample because their sperm has a 'short shelf-life'.
Most mutant genes have other subsidiary effects apart from the obvious one and this just happens to be the subsidiary effect of the rose comb gene.
I know, I should get out more!! Very Happy
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Henwife



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then of course there's always the randy hen who hops over to join lover-boy and then goes home. Too late you learn what she's been up to!
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justin



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this isn't an answer, just another question but this thread looks like a good one to ask it.

I am still what I would consider to be a beginner in this chicken thing..I have just bought some point of lay chickens that were kept with a cockerel at the farm I got them from . None of them have laid any eggs since I got them 5 Days ago, and I assume they are not quite ready yet. Now if they lay an egg within a month does that mean the egg could be fertilized?

Or do they have to be laying eggs already for that to happen?

Sorry to jump in but it seems like an interesting question to me.

Thanks for any answers in advance.
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Hen-Gen



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is an interesting question and I, for one, don't know the answer.
But I've always assumed that hens that aren't laying (or about to) don't mate. But that could be wrong! Confused
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poule



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may not mate, but ive seen them being raped.
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Wilt



Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Location: Worcestershire,North West

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poule wrote:
They may not mate, but ive seen them being raped.


This would undoubtedly be by a young cockerel. In my experience Cock birds rarely try to tread a non laying young pullet or out of season hen. Should they start to do their little dance , or more to a particular bird, I would say it's a sure fire marker the bird is about to come into lay. If that bird is a young pullet, they generally put up a bit of a fight Wink

Tim
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Henwife



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Tim on this and it's one of the reasons that I have a cock or cockerel in every pen. They're good markers, even if it's not a breeding pen.
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