The Poultry Keeper The Independent Forum for Poultry Keepers    FAQ   Search     Register   Log in  Pellets ? Goto page 1, 2  Next          The Poultry Keeper Forum Index -> Feeding and Housing Author Message flump Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 113 Location: Northants Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Pellets ? My black rocks are 15 weeks old and i can't get hold of any growers pellets where i live,so is it ok to give them layers pellets and mixed corn ? flump-x- Back to top debcat Moderator Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 8856 Location: Isle of Lewis Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: they don't sell growers here so mine go straight onto pellets or mash, thats if you can manage to get chickcrumb in the first place Back to top Tarka Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 421 Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Layers pellets will be fine if there 15 weeks , just add a touch of mixed corn . Back to top layla Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 603 Location: West Midlands Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: As Tarka said just a touch of corn otherwise they'll eat the corn and not the layers ..........(corn just makes them fat..it's the layers which has all the goodness that they need). Back to top flump Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 113 Location: Northants Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: cheers,i mix a little mixed corn with the pellets plus a few chopped nuts as a treat. Back to top Itsybitsy Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 1452 Location: Leicestershire Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: layla wrote: As Tarka said just a touch of corn otherwise they'll eat the corn and not the layers ..........(corn just makes them fat..it's the layers which has all the goodness that they need). Mixed corn is mostly wheat with a little maize, sometimes pea & barley. The main ingredient of layers pellets is wheat, so mixed corn will not make them fat - maize on it's own, also called corn will however make them fatter than they should be and shouldn't be fed on its own unless it's for finishing a meat bird. Itsybitsy Back to top layla Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 603 Location: West Midlands Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Itsybitsy wrote: layla wrote: As Tarka said just a touch of corn otherwise they'll eat the corn and not the layers ..........(corn just makes them fat..it's the layers which has all the goodness that they need). Mixed corn is mostly wheat with a little maize, sometimes pea & barley. The main ingredient of layers pellets is wheat, so mixed corn will not make them fat - maize on it's own, also called corn will however make them fatter than they should be and shouldn't be fed on its own unless it's for finishing a meat bird. Itsybitsy Thankyou Itsy for correcting me ......got my corns mixed up Back to top Itsybitsy Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 1452 Location: Leicestershire Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: It's a common mistake in this country (and on this forum) Maize is a relatively new crop to Britain and the term "Corn" was (and is) used to indicate grain - historiacally the locally grown one. I was working at a farm the other day and somebody said I'll go and get some corn and he came back with a scoop of cattle pellets So corn to him meant the concentrate feed of whatever animal he was feeding. Itsybitsy Back to top EGirl Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 1322 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: I've been confused about this....Maize is what exactly? Our local organic shop says it's wheat, but I think he's wrong....unless it's an american wheat....can someone explain? Back to top Kitsune Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 1410 Location: Manchester Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: as far as I am aware corn and maize are the same. The other cereals are Barley, Buckwheat, Millet, Oats, Quinoa, Rice, Wild Rice, Rye, Spelt, Wheat. There is a good information sheet on cereals here: http://www.vegsoc.org/info/cereals.html Back to top Pekinout Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 1219 Location: Cornwall Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Maize is sweetcorn. Wheat is corn. Back to top Itsybitsy Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 1452 Location: Leicestershire Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: EGirl wrote: I've been confused about this....Maize is what exactly? Our local organic shop says it's wheat, but I think he's wrong....unless it's an american wheat....can someone explain? Maize is sweetcorn, or corn on the cob. but grown for feed it is allowed to mature on the plant and the sugars in the cobs which we find so delicious is converted to starch. I'm sure it's far more technical than that and somebody may be able to come on and explain it better, in chicken feed it it dried and kibbled, so in "mixed corn" it is the yellow bits. As it is a plant in the sugar family it is, as I said earlier a relatively new crop to this country, as the growers had to "improve" the plant so it could grow in out cooler climate, and that is partially why there is such confusion over the name "corn". Commercial growers however will call it Maize, but the Americanization of our langugae results in us calling it "corn" as in sweetcorn & popcorn. Wheat has been grown in this country for hundreds of years (if not more) and if your local organic shop don't know the differece between maize and wheat I would seriously doubt the credibility of anything they tell you. Sorry - I think you're Irish, I don't know how extensively wheat was grown over there, the main grain crop was probably barley, but nevertheless, if somwbody doesn't know what wheat is, and they're selling it Itsybitsy Back to top EGirl Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 1322 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: You're right Itsybitsy, I was a bit nonplussed when he couldn't tell me the difference. It should be his business to know these things, though maize is not commonly available here. Wheat & barley are grown very widely here. Not sure about Maize though. I think it might be a little wet for large scale growing. Thanks for clearing it up guys. I am indeed Irish, by the way. Back to top Henwife Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3540 Location: Monmouthshire Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: As a child, Corn Flakes used to puzzle me because I couldn't see how it could possibly be corn (wheat).....much the same a cornflour (maizemeal), which was obviously not the same as the flour from which you made bread and cakes - it squeaked. Back to top CP Moderator Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 16285 Location: Hampshire Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Very confusing! Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         The Poultry Keeper Forum Index -> Feeding and Housing All times are GMT + 1 Hour Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group